this post was submitted on 21 Jan 2024
37 points (97.4% liked)

Canada

7209 readers
485 users here now

What's going on Canada?



Communities


🍁 Meta


🗺️ Provinces / Territories


🏙️ Cities / Local Communities


🏒 SportsHockey

Football (NFL)

  • List of All Teams: unknown

Football (CFL)

  • List of All Teams: unknown

Baseball

Basketball

Soccer


💻 Universities


💵 Finance / Shopping


🗣️ Politics


🍁 Social and Culture


Rules

Reminder that the rules for lemmy.ca also apply here. See the sidebar on the homepage:

https://lemmy.ca


founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
 

With rising rents and house prices making it increasingly harder to find a place to live, some are pointing the finger at Canada's record-level immigration rates.

all 9 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 23 points 10 months ago

They keep talking about this big grey trunk, a tail at the end of a big mass of grey animal, four big lumbering limbs, two big floppy ears and the fact that the thing is huge ... but no one ever wants to acknowledge the wealth inequality elephant.

The big fat elephant of wealthy elites and corporations that continually live off the of the economy like some parasitic vulture that constantly takes but never gives and then sits back and wonders why no wealth is going around and wonders why people are always poor.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But experts and economists say that targeting immigration broadly won't bring the cost of housing down. What's required, they say, is a more nuanced approach.

These damn experts and their complicated answers to problems! I don't understand any of it! I just want someone to give me a simple answer!

"It's very simple math. If you have more families coming than you have housing for them, it's going to inflate housing prices," Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre told an audience in Winnipeg recently.

Ah! There we go!

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

The logic is missing numbers the conservative leader leading the question with an assumption that there are less housing than immigrants.

So you have to dive deep to see if that the case or not. How many homes are vacant or used as fake address for Canadian who claim residents in canada while staying abroad. How many homes own by companies and the benfit from not listing vacancies to control the supply chain and justify futher development.

In addition to numbers you have to take into account population growth. Which make the real math more complex.

Making a simple statement in these situations iy just sad because it has no value.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

All of the commentary I've seen about immigration and the housing crisis has acknowledged that the crisis had multiple causes and needs every level of government needs to make significant policy changes.

Most commentators say we need to build more homes, reduce the financialization of homes, provide more affordable housing, and yes, temporarily reduce pressure on the system by temporarily reducing immigration.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think even conservatives that are smart and aware enough know this, but you won't hear it from Poilievre.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

I'm pretty sure the article has a quote from Poilievre where he says more houses need to be built.

To support your point, the Conservative website definitely says that. And it uses the word gAtEkEePeRs 592 times while saying it. 😂

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


With rising rents and house prices making it increasingly hard to find an affordable place to live, some are pointing the finger at Canada's record-level immigration rates.

High interest rates, increasing building costs and red tape at the municipal level that can slow down or halt home construction are all part of the picture.

But to tackle the pressure being created by immigration, some are now openly discussing forging a public policy link between how many people Canada takes in each year and the state of the country's housing stock.

Pomeroy said that while the annual immigration target has been well managed, provincial and federal governments have lost control of non-permanent resident programs that bring in students and temporary workers.

"There are some institutions in different parts of this country that, I have the sincerely held belief, have come to exist just to exploit the program for the personal financial gains of the people behind some of these schools, if we can call them that," he said.

"I think what's happened probably since the 1990s is that different corporations in Canada, business lobby groups, have seen more immigration as just an unambiguously good thing," said Christopher Worswick, economics chair at Carleton University.


The original article contains 1,426 words, the summary contains 197 words. Saved 86%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The immigration rate sure as hell isnt helping things.