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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I understand and appreciate the point of the childish look of the f-zero, but I often find myself wishing it was in more of a phone or phone case form factor.

Why? No one questions a phone in your hand. You can be literally anywhere, including places that disallow phone usage, and no one is going to bat an eye. But a f-zero raises questions. I can’t tell you have many times I’ve been asked “what is that thing?”

And now, it’s reached a level of popularity that people will recognize it for what it is. It’s not generic looking, in fact quite the opposite. Whereas a long, wide, thin black box looks like every other phone out there.

[–] Schmuppes@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (4 children)

So what are you doing with it that makes you prefer not to be noticed?

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I’ve used it in multiple places that I don’t like the questions. Hospitals when the tv remote has been “misplaced” (aka staff doesn’t give a fuck and someone stole it,) bars (with permission,) entry into hotel rooms, at my work because I forgot my badge.

And as mentioned, pen testing. Though not professionally and just at the office (with permission) to see how far it could get (surprisingly far actually, with the right badge.)

The thing about it is though, it stands out to an extreme. Even if I have it out on a table while sitting down (it’s rather bulky for a pocket) people take notice and ask what it is. “It’s like a universal remote” just raises more questions.

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[–] capital@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Besides the obvious nefarious purposes, a pen test is something legit I can think of that would be useful for.

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago

I’ve got one and it’s a lot of fun. Can’t lock me out of anything now.

[–] bjorney@lemmy.ca 14 points 9 months ago (5 children)

There is nothing this thing can do that a dedicated hobbyist couldn't replicate with parts bought off the shelf at a RadioShack, so where does the line get drawn

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[–] Forgottenperson@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's a multi faceted blame. Yes, you blame the hardware that's helped used to commit the crime, then you blame the people using it to commit the crime, then you blame the people still allowing it to be done. Look at America for example. People use guns to kill children in schools. Then you blame the person for committing the crime, then you blame the politicians who refuse to make it harder to get a gun

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[–] Vertelleus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"It's really easy to duplicate keys for this car, let's ban key makers."

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago

While we're at it, let's make theft illegal

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 months ago (5 children)

The truth of the matter is, Canadian laws are intentionally non-sensical and intentionally don't address the root cause of crime. Our country's leaders are openly engaging in numerous large scale scams not the least of which is the stolen car market. How do you think alllllll of these stolen cars wind up in Africa and SE Asia? Shipping manifests, inspections, public awareness of the string of thefts. How does the government manage to always miss these blind spots do you think?

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[–] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

I wanted to get one one day. This sucks. Now I'm gunna have to import it from some rando in Brazil like I did for my switch mods.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Presumably, such tools subject to the ban would include HackRF One and LimeSDR, which have become crucial for analyzing and testing the security of all kinds of electronic devices to find vulnerabilities before they’re exploited.

This slim, lightweight device bearing the logo of an adorable dolphin acts as a Swiss Army knife for sending, receiving, and analyzing all kinds of wireless communications.

People can use them to change the channels of a TV at a bar covertly, clone simple hotel key cards, read the RFID chip implanted in pets, open and close some garage doors, and, until Apple issued a patch, send iPhones into a never-ending DoS loop.

The price and ease of use make Flipper Zero ideal for beginners and hobbyists who want to understand how increasingly ubiquitous communications protocols such as NFC and Wi-Fi work.

Lost on the Canadian government, the device isn’t especially useful in stealing cars because it lacks the more advanced capabilities required to bypass anti-theft protections introduced in more than two decades.

The most prevalent form of electronics-assisted car theft these days, for instance, uses what are known as signal amplification relay devices against keyless ignition and entry systems.


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