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Terry Matalas On Why Janeway And Harry Kim Weren’t In ‘Star Trek: Picard’ And The Fate Of The Enterprise-E (trekmovie.com)

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[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I thought it was way funnier if they all turned to Worf and he’s like, “It wasn’t my fault.” So everyone is going, “What the hell happened?” That’s way more fun. Somebody can tell that story some day about what happened with Worf and the Enterprise-E but it’s more fun to imagine yourself all the possibilities.

This used to be the only way to create immersion on a budget, and while I appreciate that a lot of franchises are exploring interesting teases, the pendulum has definitely swung too far the other way. A little mystery can be nice, but good luck selling completionist fans on that.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Reading that made me wish Picard S3 was two seasons long (not that I didn't already). All of those scrapped ideas would have been amazing (if expensive lol).

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not a fan of the season, but some more time to let things breathe would have been welcome.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 11 points 8 months ago

Agree on it needing breathing room, but I've also reluctantly accepted that's just what we get nowadays with everything becoming so hyper-serialized and each season being a 10 hour movie. I don't mind that trend too much when the story is good, but it does make me miss the longer seasons that could give you a few lighter / "filler" episodes to catch your breath. That critique is not just for Trek but a lot of other shows developed for streaming as well.

That said, I really do enjoy SNW being more episodic.

[+] halm@leminal.space 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

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[–] theinspectorst@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

last couple of Picard seasons

I mean, that's a pretty astonishing statement to throw out there, grouping together probably the worst single season of Star Trek with one of the best...

[–] halm@leminal.space 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Look, I loved seeing the reconstructed TNG Enterprise as much as anybody — but the season 3 story shoehorned the old crew into a bizarre fanfic about Picard's secret Jedi son, and butchered their characters so they could deliver oneliners that only superficially recalled the originals.

Nope, for all its nostalgia baiting that might have been handled okay-ish, Picard s3 is hardly among the best Trek seasons. It's not even among the best of that series' run.

[–] Deebster@programming.dev 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For me, the level of fan service and nostalgia was almost uncomfortable - we've got Lower Decks for that kind of stuff!

[–] halm@leminal.space 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, and SNW leans heavily in the same direction IMO. Maybe it's just producers circling the wagons to keep the fans happy — maybe at some point I'll realise they hit the zeitgeist in a way I can't decipher right now — but I feel like they're flattening legacy characters for gimmicks and jokes.

I hope eventually somebody gets a Trek series on the air that's just a solid space exploration show without too heavy ties to past Trek.

[–] Deebster@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I hope the Orville manages to get a fourth season, that often felt like the most Trek of all of what was airing.

[–] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago

Good for Harry Kim that he finally got his promotion.