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I think Debian is a bit overrated too.
I realized Arch was overrated when I got a brand new 7900 XT and it didn't work on Arch at all because their LLVM was a version behind. It was up-to-date on Fedora and even Ubuntu, but not Arch. Then there was the whole broken grub thing. Bleeding edge and unstable I get, but you can't be unstable and also behind. You can run Arch in any distro with distrobox, I don't see why you wouldn't just do that.
Ubuntu has ads in the terminal when you update. Runs a highly modified GNOME that doesn't play well with some extensions. Snaps by default (although maybe not that bad now that they seem to launch a bit quicker). Unfortunately so many things only have Ubuntu support if they have Linux support at all, it's such a shame.
LLVM was held back for a good reason, it was breaking things left and right. Even so, if you really needed it there were always AUR packages for it, or lcarlier's mesa-git repo if you prefer prebuilt packages, so it's not as if you were just SOL. I got my 7900XT in december, and instructions on how to get it running were already all over the forums and subreddit at the time and it was working on the same day that I got it.
I don't know when you got your 7900XT, but it was broken on Ubuntu too for a good while, I'm not even sure that it currently works on 22.04 without using external PPAs. In the mean time, it now works with Arch out of the box.
As for the grub thing, I'm not sure how that could have been handled differently. Upstream introduced a change that created a compatibility issue, so Arch could either not update to a newer version of grub ever, or update anyway and tell its users how to handle the compatibility issue. The latter is what they did.
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Seeing a lot of Manjaro here, what's the deal? I installed it just yesterday on a test machine to check it out as I plan on steering over from windows long-term so just browsing what's out there. Don't really have issues and it ticks the boxes of a more user-friendly installation and comes out of the box with Plasma. I may try out pure Arch or the GUI fork just not to have the hassle of setting up the DE
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I've got to go with Endeavour. I'm not sure it's so much that it's overrated, but more that the community talks about it as a replacement for Manjaro which is far from the case. The installation may be easier than arch but once it's all up and running you're going to need to be comfortable in the terminal to sort things out. The documentation for endeavour is incredibly lacking too. It's an unnecessary middle step between a "beginner" distro and arch. If you can't follow the arch installation guide on the wiki then you're going to have even more trouble when it comes to endeavour
Pop_OS!
Manjaro
Ubuntu
Fedora
Linux Mint
Gotta ask, since it's my distro of choice... what's wrong with Fedora?
Pop_OS - Fragile Beginner Distro, this is fine to use so long as you’re not a power user, but you’re using Linux so…
Manjaro - Maintain your damn repos, why is it whenever discord updates, the repo is so far out of date I literally have to circumvent it and install it through some hacky bullshit?
Ubuntu - Snap? More like Thanos Snapd off my damn drive thank you very much.
Fedora - just overrated, nothing terribly against it, just don’t think it’s all it’s cracked up to be. It’s just a RHEL adjacent Distro.
Linux Mint - aside from Debian edition, its pretty overrated. It’s easy compatible Ubuntu. It’s not super Ubuntu or anything.
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