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As the title suggests I am interested in knowing who some of the best young Italian players/prospects are in Football?

Based on my limited knowledge, I know some of the top young players include Sandro Tonali, Fabio Miretti, Moise Kean, Rovella & Fagioli.

Let’s say if you had to rank the top 10 young Italians who would they be? And which ones have potential to become a true world superstar?

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What if, in order to be offside, you had to be fully offide the moment the pass was made AND the moments the pass was received

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I'm a Newcastle fan btw

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The FA Cup is fine on its own. We don't need the EFL Cup too. Most clubs priorities the FA Cup way more, it's a more prestigious prize and the tournament has way more fixtures. Clubs also prioritise league matches over the EFL Cup anyway, so the EFL just adds to the fixture congestion of a lot of teams. Players are getting injured across every team anyway.

During a busy fixture schedule, clubs have to put together a team to play in the EFL cup midweek whilst trying to save their best players for the important league match 3 days later, but also trying not to get humiliated too badly in a Cup game that most teams don't really care too much about.

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This is the most unbelievable story and it's happening right now in Brazil. Our league is played with 38 matches like the Premier League. So, Botafogo started winning everything, they made the best campaing in history during the first 19 games, they had 47 points, with 15 wins and only 2 losses. During this run, they won all their 10 home games, conceding only 3 goals. And by the end of this 19 games they were 13 points clear from Grêmio, the second place. But in the middle of the league, Al Nassr, the team where Cristiano Ronaldo plays, made an offer to have Botafogo's coach and he accept. Botafogo then get a new manager but things don't go well, and the players make a pressure to get him fired and keep a guy who was already in the club.

Then, they lost a derby to Flamengo and lost to Atlético Mineiro, the difference fell a little but they won two more games and drew another one. Then they faced Athletico Paranaense home on a Sunday and would face Fortaleza on a Tuesday, but the game against Athletico needed to be finished on Monday because the lights went out during the game, which led to the game against Fortaleza to be postponed. This was a bad thing because on that week Fortaleza would play the Copa Sul-Americana final, and probably would use an alternative team against Botafaogo. The game against Athletico finished 1-1. On that same week, they lost home against Cuiabá.

Then things started to go incredibly downhill and they never won a game since. They would face Palmeiras on Wednesday on game 31, and at the time, Palmeiras was second place, 6 points behind Botafogo. So, if they win, they would open 9 points to second place, with 8 games to play because they had that game against Fortaleza. Botafogo was playing home, and they opened 3-0 on first half. Second half Palmeiras made 3-1, and Botafogo had one player sent off. But then they got a penalty on minute 82, but... they lost the penalty and saw Palmerias make a comeback from 3-1 to 3-4, scoring a goal on last minute. The difference fell to 3 points.

So, next Monday they had a derby against Vasco, who is fighting against relegation, and they lost 1-0. Palmeiras won their game. They were tied on points. On Thursday, Botafogo would face Grêmio at home. Again, they opened 3-1 and then...Luis Suarez scored a hat-trick and won 4-3 to Grêmio. They had bottled two times a 3-1 score at home inside one week and had lost the top of the league. But the craziest thing is that on that day, a RBD show would happen on Rio de Janeiro, on Botafogo's stadium, so the game needed to go somewhere else and they played on Vasco's field, which allowed Luis Suarez to play, because Botafogo use a synthetic grass on their field, and Suarez have a knee problem that he can't play on synthetic grass. Vasco's stadium, otherwise, have natural grass, so Suarez was allowed to play and score a hat-trick.

Next game, they faced Bragantino away, and was winning the game until last minute, when they conceded a goal and drew 2-2. Then last Sunday they played Santos at home, a team who also is fighting relegation. They were winning 1-0 then conceded a goal on last minute, again. And finally last Wednesday, they were facing Coritiba away, a team who was already relegated and was playing in an empty stadium because their fans fought Cruzeiro fans inside the pitch during a game. At this time, if Botafogo win, they would be only 1 point behind Palmeiras. Everything was normal, they were drawing 0-0 when Botafogo got a penalty on 95 minute. They score. The referee add two more minutes because the delay to shoot the penalty and to celebrate, then on next attack, Coritiba scores on 99 minute. And they fumbled again and was 3 points behind Palmeiras, but they have less goal difference. The only normal game they had was the one against Fortaleza, which they tied 2-2 but without any crazy thing happening on last minute. And to finish, today they drew 0-0 with Cruzeiro and officially don't have chance to be champions because Palmeiras won a game against Fluminense, who is a Botafogo rival and is thinking about Club World Cup, so they played an alternative team. Right now Botafogo is 5th and they have chances of not getting a place on Libertadores group stage next week, needing to play 2 play-offs to get the spot.

They were the best team in history on the first 19 games, and then the last 19 they have a campaing of a relegated team. They were so ahead that they have now 10 games without a single win and still are on top 5 teams on the league. There is a saying in Brazil that "there's some things that only happen with Botafogo", but what happened during this league is way beyond anyone could expect.

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For me its Immobile. Horrendous player. Worst player ive seen play for the Italian National team, fucking useless every game I see him which is usually an important game, literally has no other skills other than finishing and that also goes to shit vs good teams.

Who yall got?

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Who's the best in their prime? In what order?

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I’ll say when the media said CR7 is gay Add yours

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No racism please. No sensitive people also.

I am just curious

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My wife is claiming 5 football teams.

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Clubs still stay in their domestic leagues, they added a relegation system and all clubs will earn much more money.

Let’s not forget how the new ucl format is basically a copy and paste of the super league. I do not see any negatives for clubs joining the super league

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Off the top of my head:

-2004-2005 Liverpool: Didn't do well in the league, but in the CL's, they have in my opinion the greatest CL run of all time. They took out a world class Juventus team, beat 95 point Mourinho Chelsea team in semi finals, and than beat a legendary Milan team.

- 2014 to 2016 Atletico Madrid: Won the league against prime Real Madrid and Barcelona in 2014. Seconds away from winning the 2014 CL final against a monstrous Real Madrid team that wiped the floor with Bayern 5-0. 2016 --> They knocked MSN Barcelona in their prime in UCL, knock out Pep's Bayern team (best team in the world that year in my opinion), and only lost on penalties to Prime Real Madrid team. Finished only 3 points behind MSN Barcelona in league.

-2018-2020 Liverpool: Pushed the greatest PL team of all time (Pep's man city) to the absolute limit getting 97 points in 2018-2019. Far less spending budget that Man City. Win the 2018-2019 CL. Every player on that team pushed their absolute physical limits. The intensity they played almost every game that season was insane. A major injury to just 1 or 2 important players would have completely derailed that season, but the important players managed to stay healthy despite the pressing intensity. The next year, they win 25 out of the first 26 games of the season! Pretty much ending the PL title race by January.

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Sorry for the personal rant but I miss this guy so much, I got into the sport because of him and Mata and now Im stuck here lol, Chelsea for life but back then I used to be super into it and now i dont really care if we lose. Azar gave me so much joy for 7 years and I took him for granted man, Ill never see anyone like him for my team again.

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Hey, as the title says, and apologies if this is the wrong sub, I read the rules and it seems to apply but if not feel free to point me.

My friend is massively into football, notably small obscure teams from around the world, and is obsessed with football manager. I try to listen to his currently in to because I want to get him a gift for Christmas.

Some of the teams he's in to at the moment are: Diagoras

Aveley

Budapest Honved

Piacenza

I'm at my wits end, I've gone to dozens of sites a piece, looked at classic shirt sites, eBay, official stores and I can't seem to find anything. I most notably want to find the Greek team Diagoras as I know he's playing that on FBM23 at the moment.

Any advice or links would be greatly appreciated, I know nothing about football, all I know and like is what he knows and likes. (Go Lazio?)

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I miss De Gea

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I don't watch Real Madrid too often. Is he scoring loads because they haven't got much of a striker right now? Is it an extreme purple patch? Or is he simply this good and the scoring rate is likely to continue? His rate was significantly lower at Dortmund (though still very good for his position) after all.

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We said it once and twice, the primary job of a GK is to save goals.

Modern Football fans throw on us their football masturbation ideas like a GK must play good with his feet, makes long passes, build up the play as if he is Toni Kross or Pirlo.

Again little boys, a GK who can't save goals is useless. A GK who dive and save like Onana does is shit. Onana is just clown who had the chance to play for a great club like Man U. Zero responsability, Zero Commitment, Zero focus, Zero everything.

Onana literally costed Man U this easy group stage (Every Game a major mistake or two) but it is fine since he makes some funny dives and has 99% pass accuracy.