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[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Democratic socialism is not social democracy. The nordic model is social democracy (european capitalism I call it). Democratic socialism is socialism, the thing I keep saying I want.

Europe is capitalist, I want socialism. Europe, as a whole, is too right wing and not anti capitalist, pro socialist, and leftist enough for me. I want america to be more socialist than capitalist europe. I do not care about Europe's future politically or their choices. I am more than happy to take what works for them, but I won't base that idea off of a meme. I don't think capitalism works for everyone in this world, and I'm not okay with it working for just a few. I am willing to be taxed higher, and I am okay with you being taxed higher, to achieve a system that lets the US coincide with the rest of the world without killing people. This means European capitalism (social democracy) is not enough for me.

I don't care about the west. 'The west' is a mythological culture that doesn't exist. Anyone who uses 'the west' with me will be met with a blank stare unless you closely define what that means, because I don't believe anyone actually knows what that is. Democracy on its own accord is insufficient to establish pluralism, universalism, and cosmopolitanism. It needs socialism to achieve that. No amount of capitalistic regulation is going to bring in a multi-cultural state that treats every worker equally. Capitalism cannot treat its workers well. This is a fact. Capitalists may have offices in your 'western' countries that have high quality of life, but the actual bottom-tier laborers are in other places that don't have such high living standards, and capitalists in the west like this arrangement.