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[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

True, there are more valid reasons to hate AI, like that its usage inherently degrades the livability of our only planet or that it only functions due to artistic and intellectual property theft.

However, you're glossing over the reality that AI is already being used in weapons. It was also used by my government's regime to illegally kidnap the president of another country, even.

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Electric motors and encyclopedias are irreplaceable in weapons. All electronics are used in weapons.

Farming, fishing, and electricity inherently degrade our planet far more than AI. They should all be used sustainably, wisely, and with an eye to ecosystem health and future generations. You'll get absolutely no argument from me there. Banning any of them or limiting their access to only the governments and corporations who are doing almost all the damage, is insanity.

When it comes to IP theft, that is a huge, non-ai problem. Again, corporations are responsible for almost all of the damage and we reap none of the benefits, even before AI was ever introduced. The problem is with how we allow corporations to copyright and restrict things for generations.

The solution is that AI, the technology that required all of humanity to contribute knowledge for it to exist, should be free for all to use. Why would IP theft be a reason to limit AI ownership to only corporations and governments? That's completely backwards.

[–] SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe 1 points 1 hour ago

@Nouvellalia @7101334
> Farming, fishing, and electricity inherently degrade our planet far more than AI.

Inherently? It's just a matter of time.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Farming, fishing, and electricity inherently degrade our planet far more than AI.

They're also necessary for existence (at least the first two, but when it comes to medical applications, really electricity too).

AI slop? Nope.

[–] nevyn@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 hours ago

re: your 1st point: deliberately disingenuous due to scale and time. re: your 2nd point: No

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Nope, we all lived just fine without farming and fishing. Then we lived just fine without industrial farming and fishing. We lived most of human existence without either, and certainly without modern medicine.

You just like those things and you don't like AI.

Then you dress all AI applications down to "AI slop". Which if you want to move the goalposts to "AI slop", we can agree that it's about as necessary as high fructose corn syrup and streaming entertainment. Do you fuss on those as hard as frivolous AI usage?

[–] SallyStrange@eldritch.cafe 1 points 1 hour ago

@Nouvellalia @7101334 funny how really the only argument AI boosters can make with regards to its environmental impact is "what about all the other stuff that is worse". What about it? What about that? Look over there! Yes I've been concerned about all those things, for many years, because I've been concerned about climate change, for many years. You haven't?