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• Firefox offers better privacy and security than Chrome, with upcoming support for 200 new add-ons. • While Chrome dominates, Firefox gains ground with user-friendly browsing experience and open-source model. • Mozilla's focus on user privacy and transparency challenges Google's ad-centric approach, making Firefox a viable alternative.

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[–] stifle867@programming.dev 50 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

I've been using Firefox on desktop and mobile exclusively for a number of years now. I will say the experience isn't perfect but it's better than using a browser made by a company that is actively hostile to its users.

It is important to take note that you will experience issues with some websites. For example, https://astro.build/ Try scrolling quickly up and down on this page on Firefox vs Chrome (on mobile).

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What's wrong with that page? I'm not seeing anything in particular.

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same

Scrolling was a little jittery on both ff and Chrome for me, but the page has a lot of content on it, so I wouldn't expect it run silky smooth on everything.

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago

I think because of the JS framework it's using is causing performance issues. Ironic because the website claims 98/100 performance score - the highest of all those that they tested. It works perfectly smoothly on Chrome for me. A simple page like that should not lag/hitch at all.

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Massive lag on scrolling. Are you not seeing this? I'll record the screen in a minute.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It was a tiny bit jittery on the first scroll through the page but not very noticeable and it happened in both browsers anyway. That's about it. I'm on an Xperia 10 III.

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

video is uploaded here

sorry I wasn't sure where to upload the video running a pixel 7 pro it's hard to come across on video but it is there. hitching/jittery/lag on ff, perfectly smooth on chrome

i'm surprised by the comments, everyone has been having mixed results

[–] Kethal@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's completely fine for me on FF mobile.

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Very strange! Everyone who has replied has had a different experience on this website. It's probably an issue with the website, not Firefox per se. It simply manifests on Firefox for me personally.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Video link doesn't work - have you tried testing with extensions disabled?

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago

try this link instead and let me know if it works

and yes. while not in the video, I did download the beta ff version to have a seperate/clean environment to test in and the same behaviour is replicated

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm scrolling an have absolutely no issues. Android 12 and Firefox 120.0b9 (Build #2015985090),

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

What refresh rate is your display running?

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's jittery. What's causing that?

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

I honestly have no idea of the root cause. Different users are reporting different things. It seems to manifest differently for everyone. At a high level I would say it's due to the use of a JavaScript framework as a purely static HTML/CSS only site should not be doing this.

[–] mmagod@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

exactly this..

i started out in firefox back in early 2000s.. then made the switch to chrome and never looked back..

im not the biggest google-groupie but for me to make the switch, google really had to f up in my eyes.. and they did

[–] Guster@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I see no difference between mobile chrome/Firefox?

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A lot of people have been saying this, some have been saying it lags in chrome, and some have been saying it lags in firefox. I'm interested to know what device you have and perhaps what refresh rate your display runs?

[–] Guster@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

60hz Android 11 Xiaomi

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What were the main pain points?

[–] teichflamme@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not OP but one thing I am missing, especially in mobile, is grouping tabs.

Chrome auto groups your tabs, so if I open 5 Amazon links looking for something they are already sorted.

For some reason Firefox doesn't seem to get this feature

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I agree, although I forgot that feature ecists in Chromium based ones

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How do you turn that on? I can manually create tab groups but chrome never auto-groups tabs on my Mac at work

[–] teichflamme@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

To be honest, I have not used this on desktop, but it's the default on mobile.

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Random performance issues

Menu doesn't open in landscape mode

Tab overview page not working consistently - this one is hard to capture right now but what happens is when you have a large amount of tabs open (say over 30), when you hit the tab overview button it doesn't take you to the currently open tab in the list, instead it takes you to the very top. This is not the normal behaviour. If you open and close it a few times it will randomly work properly 1/10 times.

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh on Android I thought mostly for Desktop.

Thank you for sharing. I experience more issues with mobile equivalent apps than their desktop counterparts

[–] stifle867@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Sorry for not clarifying. I tried to on other comments but this is also a post about Firefox Android specifically so I sometimes left that part out.