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[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 25 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

What am I missing about the comments here? It's a satirical cartoon, so it's not meant to be taken as these labels are what the author would apply to each group.

I read it as highlighting the hypocrisy of how Ukraine fighting Russia is self defence but Palestine fighting Israel is seen as terrorism.

Is this a controversial take?

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 31 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Is this a controversial take?

In some countries like the UK and Germany not only is this a controversial take, it is an illegal take

[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 7 points 18 hours ago

Right, I assumed it was also referencing this.

[–] InappropriateEmote@hexbear.net 11 points 19 hours ago

That is the correct reading of it, yes. But I think at least most of the comments so far recognize this? And most of them so far seem to be in agreement with the artist of the cartoon that it is an absurd double standard, the only one that seems to be an obvious exception is the one who was shocked that it was getting upvotes. But I may be seeing a different set of comments than what you are because of how federation works, so like I am blissfully unaware of comments made by .world users for example.

Unironically, one possible point of confusion may be the label of "TV" which is a little old school, where a more general "media" or something might work better this day and age.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 5 points 18 hours ago

They didn't see the "TV" in the pic lol

[–] NewDark@lemmy.today 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You've got it. Ukraine is a little less black and white than Israel Palestine, so you'll see some comments that are anti Ukraine.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

It's similarly black and white (although the scale of genocide that is happening to Palestinians is on a completely different level of course) if one understands history. Ukraine is full of Nazis. Russia is killing them. Is Russia a good country? No, definitely not and they should be condemned for all the bad shit they do. But everyone should be in favor of Nazis getting murked. And then we'll get folks like "well Ukraine isn't Nazis" to which I respond "then why do they all have Nazi patches." And then one would respond "those are historical patches." To which I would reply "from what history." Then we always hear "well when they were fighting the communists." The obvious question is "on whose side?" And that's where folks get angry because they just walked into proving that Ukraine is historically full of Nazis, and thats why they continue to wear Nazi patches. Ukraine could choose to distance themselves from their Nazi history but they don't. The only explanation for not distancing yourself from your Nazi history and instead leaning into it is because you're a Nazi.

Seems pretty cut and dry to me, but I'm not a Nazi so that makes me pretty ~~biased~~ based

[–] NewDark@lemmy.today -3 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Oh, so Russia should just exterminate the entire population and take that entire landmass. You've painted the entire country with the same broad brush and they obviously deserve it. The hundreds of thousands of people dying on both sides with surly root out the Nazi scurge and not legitimize them as a defensive force. /s in case it wasn't mega clear.

You're correct, there are some Nazis in Ukraine and it's certainly close to Nato and a possible threat on Russia's border. It's complicated. An irridentist invasion and war is not based actually, for everyone involved.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 6 points 4 hours ago

Russia has never said they plan on genocide, nor have they said they plan on taking the entirety of Ukraine. So you're just making things up.

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 7 points 5 hours ago

Oh, so Russia should just exterminate the entire population and take that entire landmass

Why do you keep pretending that that is what has been happening?

An irridentist invasion and war is not based actually, for everyone involved.

What should a state do when the most prolific invader in the world gathers personnel and weapons on that state's borders, especially after said most prolific invader completes a coup against a neighbouring neutral state?

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Oh, so Russia should just exterminate the entire population and take that entire landmass.

When you're a very serious person with a well- grounded understanding of what other governments want and how wars work.

Who could forget world War 2, when the entire population of Germany was destroyed?