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[–] stermy4u@lemmy.world 156 points 1 day ago (2 children)

First round of insider shareholders haven’t legally been allowed to even liquidate yet. This will be a bloodbath.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

do we know when that's gonna happen? i heard they used some loopholes to allow insider holders to sell early.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's more a question what'll happen to the other AI companies. Investors have now seen the first of the big ones tank. They'll wonder if the same will happen with OpenAI, Antrophic and other AI adjacent like Microsoft, Nvidia. For a bunch of companies living of venture capital, that's deadly.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I thought SpaceX made space rockets?

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 minutes ago* (last edited 6 minutes ago)

For the IPO I think only 7% of the value of the company was for their space related activities (what they are actually doing). 93% of the value was for the non existent AI activities.

SpaceX is now a public company valued for its AI potential, so what comes next?

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

After the merger with xAI, that's about 22% of their business. The rest is AI. The brochure will tell you about reaching for the stars and living on Mars, but the main product is actually Grok.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Which just goes to show you how bullshit the profit margins are on space travel when they gotta turn the business into a chat bot to be "profitable"

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 21 minutes ago

I disagree. That part is actually a somewhat reasonable business (though partially held up by public funds through contracts). The issue isn't what part is profitable. The issue is what part is getting all the investment and speculation. SpaceX was probably still overvalued for a space company, but they were doing something with measurable tangible value. The AI side is pure promise, and it's only speculation, and the speculation is wild. It's valued higher than something that's actually making profit.

[–] locahosr443@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

It had nothing to do with profit and everything to do with the tens of billions in debt that was coming due. The merger then ipo was just to dump that bill on the public.

It's even questionable to me if some of the space x investors will be able to get out above water... Some of those shares were sold at insanely high values then diluted. Fuck them all of course, but seems likely all this ipo achieves is another year or so of runway for the ponzi

[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean the only part of SpaceX making money is the space part, starlink

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 33 minutes ago

A part of the space part !

I read that if space x worked perfectly today, they have to do some 470 launches to just equalize Ariane because of the enormous cost spacex have had.

Hopefully we (the EU) will make reusable rockets for less...

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

That's the part making revenue, we're unsure if it's making a profit.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was wondering why the stock price was so high. Makes a lot of sense now.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Funny way to put it. Since it really makes even less sense to be valued higher with twitter and grok added. Since they both lose money.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 minutes ago

As much as I hate them, losing money is not the same as having negative value. Yeah, the current number is total bullshit, but they do have a value that's greater than 0. Information control has a value, and that's what they provide.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Does anyone say it on a platform that I'm willing to access?

[–] MyFriendGodzilla@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Gonna go grab my rubber ducky.