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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 90 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The only thing that can stop a primary candidate with a platform like Mamdani, is depressed Dem primary turnout...

The DNC chair didn't endorse him in the primary, because this chair will never even glance at the scales during any primary.

But literal days after Mamdani became the candidate, he gave a PBS interview talking about how if Dems want to win, we need to run candidates like Mamdani.

We'll get a fair primary with nothing holding us back, and voting in the Dem primary comes with zero obligations in the general. There is absolutely zero reason to stop voting in Dem primaries now. It's more important than it's ever been, because it'll be the first fair one in at least 30 years.

But all the stuff Mamdani is doing in NYC today, can be done nationwide in just a couple years if we don't give up right before the finish line of a marathon

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Its important to see that candidates are winning by offering something to the voters. They aren't running in orange man bad. They can feel that way, but it's not why they are running

There are like a bajillion studies relating voter psychology and political preferences. If you want conservatives to vote you run on anger, holding onto what you have, fear of the other. You want the other side to vote, you have to present a vision of what's possible.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

By the same token, now is the time to promote this message of hope and action wherever you see it, and proactively address expressions of doom and defeat, however harmless they may seem. We all share responsibility for this to the extent that, taken together, these attitudes constitute a climate of action or inaction.

Now is not the time to give up and stay home, yet there are many currently in a state of deep hopelessness they feel compelled to spread. These comrades are effectively deactivated right now, and would deactivate others if only as a comfort to themselves, to validate their fear and justify their inaction. They don’t realize, or simply aren’t considering, how contagious and harmful it can be.

Edit: If you ever wondered what JFK meant by “fear itself,” wonder no further. We’re all living in such times.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Which upcoming dem primary are you referring to when you say "it'll be the first fair one in at least 30 years"?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only one the DNC is supposed to be involved in...

And in case you don't know what that is because since slick Willy was in office (30 years ago) the neoliberals have kept their finger on the scal s and in all the pies:

The presidential primary

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Got it, thanks. What leads you to believe that the neoliberals will not have their finger on the scales in the next presidential primary?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That the current DNC chair was the state party chair of Minnesota for a decade with a proven track record of doing so...

That the way the neoliberals controlled politicians and entire state parties was withholding funding thru the victory fund and the current chair has immediately and without strings dumped that money back on the state parties...

That the current DNC chair said Mamdani is the type of candidate we need for president both in policy and charisma...

And a bunch of other reasons.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks. I guess I hadn't been keeping an eye on the DNC over the last couple of years. I hope that this will pan out!

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It already is...

The reason why we keep winning special election is with the funding from the DNC, everywhere has been operating at campaign levels for a year and a half.

Normally that's only for 2 maybe 3 months before the general.

Trump controls the RNC, and if they give anyone money it'll only be the most extreme maga candidates who are likely to lose.

The cards are dealt, we just haven't laid them down yet.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Interesting, thanks. Does that mean that progressive candidates actually have a chance of getting DNC money or at least fair treatment this time around?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, to be perfectly honest the DNC shouldn't have any money to give any candidates...

It's just they inherited a shit ton from the Hillary/Biden/Kamala fund, which legally was a joint fund with the DNC and then got passed down between their campaigns.

So no candidate, not even presidential, will have something like that moving forward.

The money, was/is given to state parties, and they would be using that money for party operating costs and to work with campaigns post primaries.

But we shouldn't be worried about the lack of a "victory fund" next presidential. There's a certain point where having more money doesn't really help. The prior DNCs were just obsessed with dollar amounts, that's why they just kept throwing dinners with George Clooney. Anything they got in donations was used to generate more donations, but no one ever spent the money to get votes.

They just counted on the only other option being trump, and that's not a good strategy.

Looking at what Martin did in Minnesota and has been doing the last year and a half; his strategy is to run a fair primary, because that gets the candidate with the best shot of winning in the general.

However, it's still on the state parties on how they disburse the funds. Everything except the presidential is a state race, and with the return to a bottom-up DNC, it relies on people being active at local and state levels.

Because the DNC isn't going to fix your state.

If you're concerned about the 2028 presidential now, get involved in your state party now.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Good to hear. Thank you for providing expanded details. I appreciate it.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The neoliberals lost control of the DNC after the 2024 election.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks. I wasn't really aware of the DNS goings on, so it's good to know.