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Is it really worse?
Cameras that track you everywhere you go Both
Digital tracking and spying Both
Government that targets political dissidents Both but united states is worse
But China also has healthcare and housing your average person can afford alongside a lower crime rates.
This is mainly intended to cause you to think about it and I will accept if I am incorrect on one of the things I said here but it is kinda my stance on it
As yet, your posts about the goverment on Facebook or X don't effect your credit score in the US.
people still believe in the social credit shit?
in 2026?
XD
China also does genocide
Nope. That country committing genocide told you China is commiting genocide, and you seem to believe this very trustworthy source.
No they don't.
Let’s agree to disagree.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China
Yup, that's the one made up by the United States. Capitalist propaganda works extremely well on westerners with a 10 second attention span.
https://thegrayzone.com/2019/12/21/china-detaining-millions-uyghurs-problems-claims-us-ngo-researcher/
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/430738-egyptian-media-delegates-provide-a-detailed-insight-of-the-situation-in-xinjiang
These articles are from 2019. It's taking you awhile to catch up.
As does USA, and continues to do so against it's own native people. Usa and China are not so different.
They're literally on opposite sides of the political spectrum.
Conservatives and liberals are not so different.
The US serves the rich, China serves the working class. Opposites.
They have alot in common with regards to their disregard for international law and human rights.
That's an incredibly uneducated response. China has lifted over 700 million people out of poverty. The quality of life is constantly improving. Whereas in the US, private equity is clawing back everything. The worker means nothing in the west.
With any luck, China will be the beacon of light the world needs to move forward in a progressive, democratic fashion. As soon as the US falls it'll be a real possibility.
The capitalist propaganda hasn't done you any favors. It's left you disinformed.
I'm well aware of their growth and successes in economy, technology and growing presence in geopolitics. Earlier comment from me was about human rights abuses and international law. How do China's successes in other areas suddenly absolve their disregard for law and rights?
Same goes for the US - their military might is definitely recognized, along with their status as a superpower. This doesn't give them the right to disregard law and rights. You seem to be biased towards China. But in terms of human rights and international law, how do they both fare?
No where in the thread has the topic of economic success come into play. Why have you suddenly inserted it like it's relevant?
If you say that lifting people out of poverty gives them 'points' towards human rights, not only is this a terrible rationale, this doesn't give them any points to then spend towards their abused in the likes of Tibet and the Uyghurs.
Ah I missed the last sentence. The human rights issues that were proven false nearly a decade ago, but you liberals have real short attention spans.
https://thegrayzone.com/2019/12/21/china-detaining-millions-uyghurs-problems-claims-us-ngo-researcher/
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/430738-egyptian-media-delegates-provide-a-detailed-insight-of-the-situation-in-xinjiang
Edit- here's another. It gives you an idea on how your opinion has been formulated: https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202403/1308920.shtml
Don't be a western sheep. Dig deep, and use critical thinking skills. Hating on creepy corpo America, but taking their propaganda at face value makes absolutely no sense.
Thanks, I've been reading up on the increasing cover arguments to the Uyghur discussion. However, does that also apply to their activities in Tibet?
Alright, so I dug into Tibet a little bit, which was a giant pain. It's basically a wall of western media and "non-profits." I do recall this history a bit, but it's been quite awhile since I've read about it.
So America's big shtick is spreading democracy, which is hilarious, right? What happened with Tibet is China freed a million people from feudalism, and for some reason we're upset about it. If the west would have gotten to them first they would have thrown some right wing Hitler wannabe in charge, Nestle or something other giant shitty corporation would have exploited the ever living hell out of everyone, and we wouldn't have heard about it again.. China pushes education through socialism and every CIA/Israel backed "non-profit" loses their shit.
It was quite awhile ago, and it's interesting. I'll definitely be looking for some literature on the topic.
The 9 dash line thing, I don't have much of an opinion. Maritime law is also not my thing.
Parenti article on Tibet (Though I don't always agree with him when it comes to China, he's usually pretty decent): https://tibetanbuddhistencyclopedia.com/en/index.php?title=Friendly_feudalism%3A_the_Tibet_myth
I haven't read about the Tibet propaganda much, but it'd be out of character. A true communist wants happiness for all. I'm pretty exhausted at the moment, but I'll try to dig in later. I see your other response has a couple of topics to check out.
What human rights issues? I'm unaware of any big issues.
What international law issues? You haven't named anything.
China is an incredibly democratic state, as socialist states usually are. China lifts not only it's people up, but also the poor global south. The global south that is poor because of the west's disgusting exploitative practices.
Let's hear the garbage you heard on MSNBC.
I'd refer to Tibet and the 9-dash fiasco. I'm not terribly versed in maritime law, but it feels shady to me.
To be fair, pretty easy to argue the US did that to native Americans. Then built a country on slave labour, only giving the black population voting rights in living memory. Right now, racism is increasing and in the open again. Push by billionaires not wanting people to notice they have all the money.
China is an authoritarian vision of a future no one wants.
Neither country is the good guys really.
[Says the European Brit, knowing our imperial past, some of which is also in living memory.]
They're working towards a communist future that I absolutely want.
Capitalism can't die soon enough.
Is it? They have less intense surveillance than us, they have social healthcare and housing and as a whole a robust social safety net, they've eliminated extreme poverty for their billion citizens, and their economy is making a distinct green transition and is outpacing the entire rest of the world. They have long term sustainability, which is more than I can say of any western nation.
As yet, social media posts don't effect you credit score in the US. Or have a great firewall. Though having something like ICE is a big step back being a country of rule of law. As is an attempted insurrection. And a lot else Trump is doing.
Edit: fix typo
A lifetime of consuming western propaganda has ruined your mind.
Every time you post more misinformation comes out.
Wow! What a thoughtful, genuinely original response!