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I'm done with NextCloud (ymmel.nl)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by midas@ymmel.nl to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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Just had NextCloud denying my credentials (not for the first time). I know they weren't wrong because I'm using a password manager. Logs didn't say much. Was about to reinstall (again, not the first time nextcloud went bonkers on me) before I tried a docker compose down && docker compose up. Lo and behold after a restart the credentials worked again.

This stuff is just way too flaky for something so important.

Is OwnCloud good again? My main usecase is saving photos but I don't want them locked away in a database so SeaFile is out.

Edit: I'm going to take the time to reply to you all, bit busy with work and family suddenly. But a little update - I've quickly setup Immich and fired up the CLI to import my library. AFAIK the files are still stored on disk somewhere but metadata is in a database. I didn't realize this before, knowing that I think my mind is made up and Immich is the best solution. Thanks everyone!

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[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago (4 children)

My problem with nextcloud is more the performance of the web interface rather than it's reliability (and that's even with mariadb + redis setup and a decently fast minipc). It's fine if you avoid the web interface, but that's part of the draw of the thing.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago

The poor performance carries over to the sync clients too because they're just using webdav http requests. Nextcloud will take like 10+ hours to sync my folders, vs about 10 minutes with Syncthing or something else.

[–] pim@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The performance is indeed pretty terrible. Most stuff runs fine on my NUCs except nextcloud. Maybe throwing more hardware at it solves it though.

[–] CypherPsycho@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Nope lol I have a pretty godly server and nextcloud is slow as a mf

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As someone with a beef server: Nope, performance stays unsatisfactory. Redis helps a lot but only if the page is cached which tbh just makes the experience worse if the page isn't cached

Edit: I'm using the AIO installer though, as discussed elsewhere in this post that might be the root cause of the poor performance, will check on the weekend by installing nextcloud manually in a fresh vm

[–] clegko@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

MariaDB runs like hot garbage with Nextcloud imo. I’ve gotten to the point where I use legit MySQL or PostgreSQL and performance is night and day. I have no idea why Maria acts out with Nextcloud for me, but I’ve gotten tired of troubleshooting it.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Interesting. MariaDB was the path of least resistance for me but I normally prefer PostgreSQL. I'll put it on the list.

[–] slippery_salmons@lemmy.today 1 points 2 years ago

I've never really needed the web interface once everything was setup. Mobile app syncs my images and then I browse files through synced desktop clients. Never had any issues this way. I guess I'm not using the extra features some may be after in the webui.