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I used to love playing Pandemic, but now that we actually lived through one, none of my friends want to play it anymore, myself included. I'm really looking forward to Daybreak to hopefully reattain the vibes of the original while still being fresh.

Anyone else here getting it or looking forward to it?

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[–] snota@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

China accounts for 30% of global emissions and, granted the states is half that, but they are still number 2. Also, the per capita number suggest that it would be easier for the individual to make a difference in the states.

Arguably a lot of China's emissions come from industry. As America has outsourced a lot of it's Industry to places like China these emission stats are probably somewhat warped.

https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by-country

[–] Sandra@idiomdrottning.org 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

@thorbot@lemmy.world

And looking at per capita, consumtion based, the US is ten times as bad as China. US: 20 tons per person. China: 2 tons. I think the world average is 4t.

China still needs to cut down because 2 tons is a lot more than what is OK but holy shit saying

But the problem is, even if all of the US came together and stopped 100% of our emissions, China would still continue to pump out 90% of the world emissions

is the wrongest thing I've ever heard. There are very few countries on this planet who arr doing worse than the US:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/consumption-co2-per-capita

@snota@sh.itjust.works @boardgames@feddit.de

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The wrongest thing you’ve heard based on stats that you think are accurate. China always under reports their data and a large majority of fuel consumers in China are smaller private entities that don’t report on it at all. So get all indignant all you want about numbers that aren’t accurate

[–] Sandra@idiomdrottning.org -1 points 10 months ago

@thorbot

The wrong thing was that "It doesn't matter what the US does" when the US is exceptionally culpable on the demand side, the drill side, and the policy side.