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    Two panel meme.

    Top panel: Woman in the front seat of a car screaming at a child in the rear seat. She's saying "Why can't you just shutdown?"

    Bottom panel: A child screaming "A stop job is running for Session c2 of user ... (1:30 / no limit)"

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    [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    That's not really systemd's fault though.

    Oh, but it is. Upstart and sysV will both assassinate everything after a point. This bullshit is entirely new, either by Systemd sucking, or Systemd allowing this shit (thus, sucking), where neither thing happened beforehand.

    I admit I rage when it's starting or stopping and can't win for all the losing -- especially because "startup time" was the the main (unfounded) feature on the banner they waved around.

    I work with sysV and Systemd and shut each down on a. Regular basis, via tooling, for stuff like patching, so it's often a horse-race to offline. The difference is often negligible, for new machines or established boxes with apps, and the main difference is sometimes Systemd fails its YOU HAD ONE job from time to intermittent time.

    I work in a team where Unix and Linux is ~15 very experienced admins, so don't fret over the skills and experience question or the scale question.

    [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

    I don't know, I don't want them to be assassinated to be honest. If an app has something to do before finish, it's beter it does it. If it's some kind of bullshit, the app sucks and I don't use it anymore.