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Wasnt it Russia that agreed to respect Ukrainian borders and sovereignty(1994 Budapest memorandum)?
While there are grains of truth in your argument you are trying to paint Russia as a defender of its people which it really isnt. For instance relatevely recently in order for big business to gain more control and eventually monopolize cattle farming their andministration started a killing cattle of farmers in rural regions were it was their main economic activity painting it as a measure to combat a disease(yeah sure a disease that spread from Kalmykia to Tuva with gaps in between) btw the cattle was killed in an extremely cruel way people report that animals were burned alive in front of their owners again it was the main means for paying the bills for them.
That said i agree that i didnt think about western intervention well enough and was wrong. Still my point about fighting imperialism not justifying imperialism holds.
Unnecessary and rude. You said that you "cant see what west has to do with this conflict aside from providing aid to Ukraine", well there you go. Now you see. This wasn't even my comment, I just copy-pasted it because it looked like you wanted more info on this. If you have some facts to add please do.
I don't understand how your thing about russia killing cattle relates to this. You say that they are "painting it as a measure to combat disease" suggesting you disagree with it but offer no alternative explanation. To me that just looks like you're trying to paint russia as something by throwing out stuff unrelated to the discussion with some vague handwaving about why the official story is not believable.
I apologize if my comment felt rude. I brough the cattle point to showcase that the current government of Russia doesnt really care about its people which could seem from your comment that it does.
I did give an alternative explanation though and it was for big companies in Russia to get more control over production.
You literally said that it contained "grains of truth", implying that it's largely made up and then said I was just trying to push a specific narrative. That's pretty rude if you ask me.
I don't know exactly what you mean that Russia does "not care for it's people". The meme I posted is very clear that I'm critical of the exploitative system in Russia today. I don't think anyone contends that the Russian government is doing such a costly military operation and eating all these sanctions just because they want to do what's right for the people in the Donbas. I thought the comment I reposted actually laid the clear economic incentives for their actions out, and why I would consider it a defensive war. Ukraine suddenly getting much closer with NATO, getting into free trade agreements with the EU that endanger the Russian economy etc. Russia prior to that was pretty respectful of Ukraine's sovereignty as far as I know, it was only when Ukraine made such a hard shift to the West and had russophobic paramilitary nazi troops launch a civil war on their border that they intervened, which seems like a pretty good reason to me? And they only intervened with aid and not directly at first, it was 5 years into an ongoing war that they actually got involved with their own military.
To me, if Russia's aim had been to just grab as much of Ukraine as they want they would have done it sooner, and there would be other indications of this prior (like e.g. a free trade agreement and forcing them to take a loan like the EU does). I'm certainly not an expert on this which is why I copied someone elses comment and didn't write my own, so if you have more information please do share.