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[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 154 points 3 days ago (4 children)

This. AI and more generally algorithm dependence is an addiction and watching him struggle with it the past few years has been heartbreaking. Watching him try to bargain and rationalize an objectively misanthropic technology that grew out of a sphere that he was a major role in and did begin as an objectively beautiful attempt at building community and healthy dialogue is very disappointing. I don't hate or judge him. He tried to do something beautiful. He just didn't understand the Faustian bargain he made in the process. The systemic forces turning his work into poison.

I don't judge him for wrestling with it. I'm sad for him. I'm sad for a lot of us. We're all working in a system that's slowly killing us to some degree or another. There is no ethically clean life in a system predicated on greed, gluttony and lies. His optimism may have slipped into delusional, but it beats the crushing cynicism that comes with naked realism.

I don't think that we should lose hope, but the future can't look like this. His Icarus moment shouldn't be the end of his journey. I hope he finds himself and begins planting new seeds even if none of us ever live to see the shade of the trees that grow from them.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 days ago
[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But this is the first time there's been this significant of an impact on one's mental health(?) I'm unsure. It's so easy to get caught up in that dopamine hit where you feel like you did something. Its even more frustrating when you're forced to use it in work regularly, whether directly or indirectly (if you're coworkers are using it there is an indirect force to use it if you need to stay competitive and keep your job and feed yourself and your loved ones especially if your workspace is not healthy)

Thought experiment: is it better to treat the AI as a contractor (fivver etc) who is doing the task you're asking rather than thinking of it as something you're doing? From a mental health perspective A contractor because you are only to talk a out the task and nothing else really. That way it's work could be more distant and you're less likely to associate it to your work and boost in productivity?

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No. This is a line we cannot cross and if it destroys us, so be it. I'm not against AI, or automation. But not these tools. Not these companies. Not these models. The question is death or death. So we learn to live without, or we die. There is no synthesis possible with this paradigm.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The cats out of the bag, so what are we gonna do now. Like replace that but not this with any other tech you should stop using, say social media, good luck. So what are we going to do now?

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

What do we do? We're doing it. We're asking questions, we're building communities IRL and in digital paces outside the bounds of the major corps. We use poison pills to make corpos that embrace these systems pay dearly. We give grace to those who sincerely pull back and we move on.

Cocaine exists and it can be a major boost to productivity. But we don't have to use it. We don't have to live with its downsides slowly killing us and robbing us of our humanity.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, we are all going to die. In fact it’s the fear of that that built these AI systems. If you want to go against them then accept death and extinction as our future.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

No. I refuse. We may die, but I refuse to surrender. Where there is life, there is hope, and we're not dead yet.