Just blocked lemmy.ml from my Lemmy account, and I swear to god it's one of the best things I've ever done on this platform. My homepage feels actually clean now.

For the past few months I'd been seeing a lot of tankie posting and pretty much far-left propaganda on my feed. It got tiring enough that I finally checked my blocked-user list, and realized pretty much everyone I'd blocked was from lemmy.ml. So I just blocked the whole instance instead.

Saying this as someone who considers themselves a leftist: I used to think Lemmy itself was an echo chamber. Turns out lemmy.ml was the problem the entire time. Probably the reason I tolerated it for so long is that I agreed with a lot of what they posted, but like an oversaturated meme, I'd had enough. Browsing the platform was starting to feel way too tiring instead of fun, which defeats the point of being here in the first place.

The breaking point was seeing some dude post a "meme" implying North Korea and China are basically communist utopias and that the West sucks. I mean, the West does suck, but come on - you're saying North Korea is the ideal the West should strive for? What the hell...

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[–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

This post made me curious so I took a look at my block list, and almost all of my blocked accounts are from .world. I've only blocked two .ml users. I wonder how much that varies by instance.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 41 points 3 weeks ago

Well lemmy.world is statistically one of the larger instances. So that's not strictly unusual. And thankfully some of the worst from ml tend to stay in their Echo Chambers being self-aware enough.

[–] hakase@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As you might expect from a lemmy.zip user, I've only blocked one person.

[–] whoiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

The girl reading this.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Every time I see people from a handful of the same instance always try to pivot any discussion of one of the other handful of instances back to a criticize of .world, I go look at their post history.

I always see the same thing; almost all .world postings, a few of the others, and none on their home instance, or any of the ones they're defending

I keep asking, never getting an answer:

Why do you hang around .world so much if you don't like it?

Why not just block .world?

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why do you hang around .world so much if you don’t like it?

Answer: because, unfortunately, many of the most active communities are hosted on .world.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

While I appreciate the answer...

Part of the question involved who I was asking:

Every time I see people from a handful of the same instance always try to pivot any discussion of one of the other handful of instances back to a criticize of .world, I go look at their post history.

"It is what it is" and commenting where the people are makes perfect rational sense.

But...

I'm assuming you don't immediately try to turn any criticism against an instance whose politics you agree with, back on the mainstream instance.

If you did, then it wouldn't be rational to spend all your time here

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m assuming you don’t immediately try to turn any criticism against an instance whose politics you agree with, back on the mainstream instance.

I think that many people reflexively speak out against perceived unfairness. Why should they stay silent when they see people from a problematic mainstream instance constantly complaining about other instances that they see nothing wrong with, the vast majority of the time without evidence, I might add? I mean, it adds up to endless whining, even in completely unrelated threads. I often see it go like this:

Person 1: "Hey, did you hear about this new scientific discovery? Pretty interesting, huh?"

Person 2 (very often from .world or piefed.social): "Well, just stay away from the DaMn tAnKiEs! They're horrible!"

Person 1 (or Person 3): "Huh? I didn't say anything about any tankies. Besides, .world or piefed has plenty of idiots too."

I've rarely ever seen anyone grumble about .world in a completely unrelated thread without cause (i.e., in response to a .world person saying something stupid), but I see that all the time against mostly the socialist/communist instances with some spillover to the anarchist instances. After a while, people start to react automatically to any complaints about other instances.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Then Person 1 should block those accounts for being idiots, like I most likely did years ago...

I’ve rarely ever seen anyone grumble about .world in a completely unrelated thread without cause

That's easy, its all over this thread, if you don't recognize it here, you're not recognizing it elsewhere.

Like a colorblind person insisting the color red isnt real...

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago

That’s easy, its all over this thread, if you don’t recognize it here, you’re not recognizing it elsewhere.

But that's appropriate in this thread, since it's specifically about a person on lemmy.world complaining about lemmy.ml. The scenario I was describing was of someone chiming in about the "tankies" in a thread completely unrelated to Lemmy instances or politics, like gardening or movies. I feel like I see this all the freaking time, but I suppose I could be wrong. It's always a possibility.

[–] CovertOperative@piefed.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Throbbing_banjo was curious about their blocklist, they did not criticize anything. The reason for having a lot of lemmy.world users on there, as Eldritch said, is most likely statistics. You talk about being rational while battling made up phantoms.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago

The Network effect still affects Lemmy communities, unfortunately.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 weeks ago

That is a silly question if I have ever seen one.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That makes sense dbzer0's made a hard .ml turn lately so I could see why the users like each other.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I will need context on that.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

It is bullshit. You can read the sidebar of the instance they clearly stating they are against russia. I remember debating a pro russia person on a db zero community and they rightfully remove his comments.

Some people just assume dbzero not defedersting from ml make them friend of ml. Thr only thing dbzero and ml agree about is anti the genocidal state of Israel

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 weeks ago

They are an imperialist who isn't against tankies but against opposition to oppression is the context.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world -5 points 3 weeks ago

they started making accounts on other instances so they can spout their shit and get banned without it getting back to their main instance to avoid defederation