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Why do you want the bad guys to win??? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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ETA: I said most of this in the comments but to save people the scrolling I'll say it here too.

This can be about elections but it isn't exclusive to elections. If it wasn't true between elections, I don't think the situation would exist during elections.

The meme is specifically about the difference between the group that isn't pretending to be good (100% evil) and the group that uses the other group as a threat to avoid pressure to become less evil themselves.

It does not offer a solution. It does not tell people what they should or could do. I think the problem is very broad and requires a diversity of tactics specific to local conditions, not a snappy easy fix that fits well in a meme. It does involve being able to discuss the parts of the machine that keeps the machine churning tho.

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[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 4 points 2 days ago

There is something about the US collective unconsciousness that reads "one side uses the other side to make themselves look better" as "they are the same" and I don't know if I will ever understand.

I made this meme to highlight the difference between the "more evil" and "less evil" groups and how that difference is the mechanism that prevents things from getting better. Seeing them the same doesn't explain why the situation doesn't improve. To be extremely specific, the difference is that one of the two groups uses the other as a threat to get the public to accept a situation they do not want as the best option.

I don't think it's exclusive to the US or two party systems, but that's off topic for this reply. I think what I want to say will be easier to follow if I specify R and D instead of % evil.

The Ds say "accept this imperfect approach or you actually support the Rs, which makes you the bad guy". The Rs also use the idea of the Ds being in power as a threat to their base, but it's more "you need to vote for us or these guys will do all these bad things you don't want!" It's not the same at all, which is what I am trying to say.

Maybe you (or others) can help me understand how this could be presented to be about the general relationship between the public (the guy with hat) and the Ds. What makes this appear to be about a general election between R and D and not about the efforts to make the D less evil? Maybe there is an implication I'm missing with the format that I'm not aware of. How could this meme be made more general?