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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 200 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Is this some new money laundering thing? Are companies "buying in" to hobnob with other wealthy people? Is this just the latest Country Club or whatever?

I seriously don't understand why all these companies are throwing money at a project that is almost assuredly going to "mismanage" it.

[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 85 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If I had to guess, this is the techbro/epstein crew trying to get a foothold in Linux. The writing is on the wall; Windows is dead, and they want to funnel the migration into their new Omarchy ecosystem. They’ll probably start advertising bigly once Kushner and MBS invest.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Windows isn't dead, anyone that actually believes that is lying to themselves.

They are too ingrained in business. Yes a couple countries will save a couple billion over the next several years getting off it but that is nothing to the 90 billion MS made in the past 3 months.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think they might mean that Windows is ultimately a dead end. I agree that its far from dead, but Valve really got the ball rolling with Proton.

Now that there's a bunch of bigger influencers "trying Linux" as a daily driver and often having a good experience, coupled with Windows/Microsoft shooting themselves in the foot every other month, I think we're seeing a shift in people's perception (at least regarding what their possible options are). That said, Linux still has a ways to go until it even breaks 10% desktop share, and I don't think it will be a threat even to Apple until Linux hits 15%.

[–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

10% of stock Chrome users on Linux, basically, is what you are waiting for on the graphs.

[–] libewa@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nobody on Linux uses Chrome, however, and many disable telemetry. We need to normalize small amounts of statistics. Nobody will be able to trace you based on just uname -srpio.

[–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Nobody" That's the 4% market usage, clearly

[–] libewa@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

It was a relative "nobody"

[–] nibbs@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To be honest, I think you are the one lying to yourself here. From the linked report:

Productivity and Business Processes $37,847 14%

Intelligent Cloud $39,306 32%

More Personal Computing $12,854 (4)%

"(4)" equals "-4".

Even MS isn't using windows exclusively. And they don't care, as the long term scenario they are aiming for, is, that everybody only uses a minimal system and rents compute in the cloud. That's, where the money is for them. I am quite sure, they don't give a single eff, what those devices are using as an OS. It won't be win 11 for sure.

So everything Windows as we know it, is what's consumer GPUs are to Nvidia.

[–] mofongo@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A real life example, I know a company whose low level employees use a Dell mini pc with a custom OS whose only job is to RDP into Citrix. All the data and compute is on the cloud.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even Microsoft knows Windows is dead. That's part of the reason for the push for office365 over locally installed applications. It's not dead as in everyone will stop using it next year, but it's dead as in it might only have 10 years left as THE dominant desktop OS, maybe more, maybe less.

What they're really ingrained in business with is their ERP bullshit. Migrating a bunch of users from Windows to Linux is cheap and easy compared to migrating all your data AND users from Dynamics to SAP or Odoo or something. It's such a headache, you basically never do it in-house, you contract that out to a company that specializes in the ERP you're moving to. Because it's not just data you're migrating, it's business processes too. Bunch of custom modules usually need to be created, yay!

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can confirm, switching ERP or billing systems is a risky multi-year nightmare with a price tag that makes even larger corps blush.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And then you have the updates! That's fun! They sell ERPs as SaaS, but it doesn't work like any other SaaS. The major updates break tons of shit because your own customizations will be based on upstream fields and methods that no longer exist. Not as bad as migrating to another ERP entirely, but not exactly cheap. At work, we keep support for our custom modules for longer than the ERP company itself supports those old versions so our customers get an extra year or 2 out of it. It's a pretty big deal for them and of course great for us, helps retention because they'd have to spend more for less if they go to the competitors (on even the same ERP that is - going to another ERP wouldn't just be a migration cost, the annual cost itself would go up too).

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

At my previous job we handled much of this in house because we were a rather large company and could do so. We ran into the same things because our bolted on processes would need to be maintained indefinitely because every ERP system update tended to break things in unspecified ways. I no longer need to do this sort of thing, but if I never have to write code for legacy IBM systems again I'll be happy.

[–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Isn't Omarchy built on top of Arch Linux? I wonder what sort of effect it will have on Arch to have companies injecting millions into this downstream project?

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Arch devs have opaquely but clearly lambasted this in public. Apparently DHH tried to sponsor Arch and they turned him down flat.

https://floss.social/@serebit/117242959044264331

[–] cylinder0093@fedinsfw.app 20 points 2 days ago

They aren't putting anything worth upstreaming into their shitty Nazi treehouse

[–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 3 days ago

My bet is that the tech bros hang in the same bar, and they’re just doing that for fun, and they don’t really care about the plebes not getting it.

Glad I left Digital Ocean like almost a decade ago, yet it still feels I’ve been with them for too long.

[–] rako@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 8 points 2 days ago

When capitalism can't find a new way to grow and is challenged by dominees, it funds fascism as an investment towards to guarantee their dominance

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Is this some new money laundering thing? Are companies "buying in" to hobnob with other wealthy people?

👨‍🚀🔫 always has been