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Programming languages are unconvincing (atleast C++, Java and its ilk, Smalltalk, Lisp) (leminal.space)

submitted 1 week ago by tetrislife@leminal.space to c/programming@beehaw.org

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I feel proponents of any programming language put a lot of spin around what isolated aspects it is good for, but fail to illustrate what a programmer in even one target domain gains from using it.

Are there programming language implementations unlike what is described above, that you feel back up their marketing?

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[–] tetrislife@leminal.space 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Interesting. What is useful in Python other than the effort put into the bindings to fast libraries? I thought alternatives like Go, Julia and Ruby are appreciated over Python for programming utility.

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You generally do no write Python for speed though generally the apeed is good enough. You write it for minimal effort of coding plus libraries. Why do people use Matlab ҄and R, same.

[–] tetrislife@leminal.space 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Maybe you are replying to the other comments, but what I am getting is Python is good glue and doesn't get in the way. That is fine, but not getting in the way is little help with any of the programming.

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Python as glue is absolutely a use. The big advantage of Python is that it also has a broad range of use and expands what a single developer can do in cases where time and cost of development is more important then code efficiencey and long term support. Basically quick often throwaway apps to get something done.

Edit: Python is a good alternative to say tcl, perl, R, matlab, VB, etc.

[–] tetrislife@leminal.space 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

broad range of use, alternative to Perl, R, etc.

Of course. Its in the same category as Ruby and Lua. Hence the question on "getting out of the way", which Lua is much better at and which Ruby surpasses by also making programming easier. But Python was first at surpassing even Perl at growing library bindings.

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 1 points 5 days ago

Yes. History and adoption matter.