this post was submitted on 24 Nov 2023
100 points (76.9% liked)

Technology

59295 readers
4310 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

OpenAI was working on advanced model so powerful it alarmed staff::Reports say new model Q* fuelled safety fears, with workers airing their concerns to the board before CEO Sam Altman’s sacking

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Why must it always be propaganda in the Fediverse? Why can't it be a more sensible take like sensationalization? Not everything is out to get you, sometimes a desperate news site just wants a click or a reader.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sensationalization infers that it happened and media turned it into misunderstood clickbait.

If the company designed the PR stunt and executed the PR stunt that would be propaganda.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's literally no proof for the latter and the former is a lot more reasonable. I don't understand this need to jump to conclusions and call everything propaganda like it's a trump card.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you want to fan-boy the company, that's your own choice.

The odds they constructed to 97th "ai safety story" for press vs the developers "being scared" of the llm are very very high.

No reasonable developer of the product has any worry for safety beyond hallucinations telling people to do immoral things. The only reason anyone says "safety" around llm is to generate an alarmist news story for press.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Who is "fan boying" the company? Can you explain that and how I did that, exactly? And please quote me.

The real story here is that the model acquired an ability that impressed a lot of people. The press ran with it and fabricated panic for views. Textbook sensationalism. How is that too hard to understand?

The only reason anyone says "safety" around llm is to generate an alarmist news story for press.

That's literally what I'm saying. Lol How do we jump from that to propaganda is my question.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-11-20/openai-staff-threaten-to-go-to-microsoft-if-board-doesnt-quit

3 pieces of "information" have been released:

  1. The board fired him primarily for not being honest with them and other things
  2. The signed letter mentioned most employees were upset about his departure and some are willing to follow him
  3. The signed employee letter mentioned the board being scared and limiting how fast to develop due to security was one of the points of contention.

From that information, you have decided that ALL media outlets reports of #3 were falsified by all news outlets, but #1 and #2 are solid.

I'm calling on Occams Razor and saying #3 was damage control from the board rather than all the media outlets faking it.

I'm saying you're "fan boying" because you're giving undue credit to the companies action pushing it over on the media, when the paper signed by 700 employees says the board was incompetent and spreading the information about being scared themselves.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And yet you missed a very important aspect of fan boying: that I don't give two shits what happens to the company. What I would be doing more accurately speaking is giving the benefit of the doubt and not drawing conclusions based on nothing, which is vastly different.

From that information, you have decided

What the fuck are you on about?

Miss me with your antisocial shit and name-calling and all your bullshit. Get blocked, run-of-the-mill asshole.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Because the political zeitgeist here is dominated by edgy teenagers who still see the world as something done to them instead of something they are doing. It's extremely obvious if you've been through that phase of life already.