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[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A Google account is required?? Well that's just dumb..

This is a red flag.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Signal is a paid contractor for Google, Facebook, Microsoft, and others since many years.

They openly talk about this on their own blog: https://signal.org/blog/allo/

[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

While this may be true, I don't understand what this has to do with a tool that peaches privacy requiring a tool that violates all aspects of privacy.

EDIT: ah I believe you are saying that I never should have expected such purism in the first place.

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hey, at least their clients are open source so you know that their chats are actually encrypted.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago

Well yes and no. You can compile a client yourself but you can't use it with the official server, you have to use the binaries they put out for that. So there's a bit of a gap there.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

their clients are open source

Their clients are but they sell proprietary licenses, so when they proclaim that There is no WhatsApp 'backdoor', you have to take their word for it.

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter how many back doors they have on the server side. As long as the clients are open source (and end-to-end encrypted), the only thing they can tell is that two people communicated.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

That's not how it works when you have a messaging platform where the server provider can secretly pair additional devices. Send PGP encrypted mails if you want it differently.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I believe you are saying that I never should have expected such purism in the first place.

What I'm saying is that Signal have a conflict of interest when it comes to Google and other customers.

[–] needanke@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Just for the moment

Can I buy an account on a device that has no Play Services?

Not yet. We have plans to add more payment methods, but currently only offer Play Store in-app payments, which requires Play Services.