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What’s so bad about proton, and is there alternatives to all of their services? (lemmy.ml)

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I keep hearing bad stuff about proton, but I don’t really get most of it. Could someone please explain all of the controversy to me. Lastly, what are the best alternatives to all of their services?

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[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 53 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Andy Yen

Known for: Proton founder (ProtonMail, Proton VPN, etc)

Proton claims to be politically neutral, but in early 2025 Andy praised the Republican party on X, and Proton issued an “official response” on Mastodon and Reddit (later deleted as “not actually official”) re-enforcing that Proton and/or Andy threw their hat in with Trump and the Republican party.

—Weird Little Guys

Current best alternative if you want to stay in the cloud: Tuta

[–] SwooshBakery624@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago

Did Drew DeVault include himself on this list? He's definitely worse than many of the people listed there.

[–] Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club 6 points 3 days ago

https://community.bitwarden.com/t/published-version-update-in-app-stores/102750

bitwarden just went commercial guys

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I mean, even better IMO is just using the standard PGP signing feature that email clients have with a nice email service like Mailbox.org / Soverin / Posteo.

[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I would being using tuta if they didnt delete 3 of my accounts for 6 months of activity lol

[–] XiJinpingStanAccount@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Were they free accounts? They are pretty strict with free accounts. They're not some google that can just provide a free service to everyone and not care about the cost. You can get a paid account that shouldn't be deleted for extremely cheap like 2-3$ a month I think, and then you get multiple email aliases and stuff too. I get not wanting to pay for email, but if it's free you've just got to accept you are probably the product.

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago

Thanks for the Weird Little Guys link, awesome.