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I mean even if it did train on the proprietary code it can't memorize it. It has to "learn what code like this looks like". It has to figure out what the function is. That can I think only be called verbal intelligence. The ability to understand what is meant behind words. Not very good yet but having to pretend it's not there is just denialism. Denialism exactly like climate change denial. And of course some AI fans do have AI psychosis, different side of the same coin.
The whole dancing around LLMs clearly being able to reason (which can be shown in scientific experiments) and therefor clearly having some sort intelligence is so stupid. Because meanwhile 90% of lemmy users are too brainwashed to accept basic reality any more.
Because you know, this isn't just funny. There are real danger as the technology progresses. But it's politically incorrect and gets you massive downvotes in the wrong community if you talk about those dangers. You can't talk about facts any more.
It's not just about the historical facts about e.g. the coup in Ukraine that you can't talk objectively about any more. Facts in general become anathema. Only the feeling of correctness and manufacturing social consent matters. Collectively we are becoming more and more stupid animals. We are trained to become less sentient or sapient. Less able to perceive and react to reality and more and more act on trained and instinctual impulses. But I see little difference between the MAGA fascists and like 90% of lemmy users now. And if you don't want to offend (or get fired) you have to mask and that seemed funny in your post.
Anyway, sorry just rambling lol
That line of thinking is directly leading to "you cannot say anything any more" and "facts before feelings", and before you know it, you confuse some loud people disliking your edgy opinions with you and your "facts" being oppressed. It's human interaction, get over it, stop being butthurt and either engage in constructive discussion, willing to occasionally accept being wrong, or block and move on. Most of us live in a world where we have more freedom of speech than most of recorded history. Stop perpetuating that bullshit play by people who hate people haveing civil discussions, because they profit from screaming matches and endless polarization. Someone disagreeing with you, even someone calling you an idiot, is just exercising their free speech, same as you do.
With that out of the way, several things can be true at once: intelligence and reasoning can be ill-defined terms, an LLM can be able to match inputs to outputs with impressive accuracy, it can have an internal model of the world that is very weird and surprisingly lacking, and it can be a dangerous technology for humanity. Does that make it intelligent? Probably, for some definition of intelligence. But I am still much more worried about people with/behind AI than about AI itself. I'm not afraid of a gun, I am afraid of an egoisitic moron with a gun.
I agree with your other points but you're definitely wrong on this. Facts are definitely oppressed today. Objective, verifiable historical facts are "not allowed" to be mentioned, and it has cost people their job.
And I do believe that is something that we've been trained to do now. Mention you just used AI with the wrong people and you're out. A moral absolutism based on disinformation and refutable arguments. The "MAGAtization" of the left if you will. Or in case of AI it creates a deep moralistic divide with tech nerds.
It could either be accidental (engagement is good for profit) or part of a strategy (divide and conquer). But as a society we've lost the ability to even talk about certain very important things without walking on eggshells.
And yeah most of this is speculation.
So, there are people who think you are a bad person for supporting large companies with fascist owners that sell you a product that makes you unlearn critical thinking, steals your data and also destroys the environment in new and funny ways?
Yeah, that sounds like a reasonable opinion to me, to be honest. Of course, you are free to disagree, but I would like to use what is left of my free speech to call AI supporters morons. I am also deeply against people who make cluster munitions to be dropped on middle-eastern hospitals, or who work in surveillance capitalism.
That's just me having an opinion, and I will not give up my core values because of some hypothetical unity. That is how we end up with the US Democrats being the "left" party. People like Clinton or Pelosi have tend to use arguments to silence critics, and it didn't work out well for the US left. The enemy of my enemy is my ally, not my friend.
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EDIT: Just to clarify, this is a strawman. Anyone who ever uses AI is maligned and attacked and dehumanized for "supporting" evil AI companies. What I do support is Chinese open source / weight models that run on clean nuclear power. Because that is where most businesses get their tokens from today already, and it's only going to rise.
There is a willingness to betray your fellow man and every truth and every principle of a pluralistic society just to support "your tribe" here. The fuckai tribe. They preach hate against normal people. And ultimately they are no different from MAGA or climate deniers or antivaxx because they don't just peddle in lies they insist on them and nothing you can tell them will change their minds. Close minded people preaching hate and stupidity based on some arbitrary dogma. More and more divisions and hate mongering are being invented every year. That is how the rich and powerful control society now.
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