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[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Every historian agrees with me! (I assume, I've not read any of them)"

[–] Tja@programming.dev -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, I've read plenty (not all of it, obviously), including compilations and reviews of people whose job is to write about it in peer reviewed settings. Just like climate change, if you ignore 99 people you will find one that agrees with you. But I rather be the guy who doesn't deny genocides.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hence why Cowbee is citing peer reviewed writers and you've got nothing but "nuh-uh! nuh-uh!" over and over again.

[–] Tja@programming.dev -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You almost got it right. Writer, singular, just Mark Tauger. Harvard? Lomonosov? Maybe Oxford? Nope, associate professor in West Virginia.

You know why? Because Mark is the only one with this position and it is widely contested and "against the consensus". He's the guy being paid by BP to deny climate change that all facebook uncles cling to.

Here's what his own university has to say about him:

Taugers findings, which are controversial in academic circles, are based on harvest data recorded by peasants who were members of Soviet collective farms.

So... Yeah. I'll side with the freaking Russian duma on this one (not something I often say).

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And you've cited nobody, you've just asserted that you have consensus on your side based on nothing and demanded to be proven wrong, and then screeching "that doesn't count!" when you are

[–] Tja@programming.dev -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'll cite.... The university of West Virginia for instance, because I don't want to copy paste a new quote.

[–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Really respectfully, that's not how citing works. You need to link to the publication/article/book/etc. that you're actually getting your information from (or at least provide the author(s) and title).

[–] Tja@programming.dev -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I understand that in an academic setting I would need to provide a proper Harvard formatted citation and my bibliography, but I don't have my bibtex collection on my phone (or anywhere, for this topic). This is a social network mostly for shitposting so I don't post with much rigor.

In any case, here's the source for the quote: http://wvutoday-archive.wvu.edu/n/2009/01/07/7391.html

[–] gualudengren@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Fair enough but just sort of definitionally if you're citing something there is a minimum bar in providing some manner for the person you're providing the citation too to be able to view the content in question or it's not really a citation.