The short answer is that democrats aren't just not good enough, they are actively detrimental to all the causes you mentioned. Democrats expanded the ICE concentration camps (that Trump took over from Obama by the way), abortion rights were taken away under JOE BIDEN who DID NOTHING despite getting AMPLE WARNING, they likewise fuck over the environment and oppress queer people. So voting democrat clearly harms many people materially. Voting for them does not help.

THIS was the actual democratic party candidate

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Newsom targets trans people

Chicago Police has had "black sites" for decades

Ferguson Riot leaders were assassinated and disappeared under Obama in a dem city with a dem governor [2]

American police used to (and still does) torture detainees [2]

Biden deported more than Trump 1

Biden expanded the concentration camps [2]

Biden was planning on doing mass deportations using ICE as well

Not to mention democrats are working with the republicans

Dems held secret meetings with Jared Kushner

Dems fund AIPAC republicans over non-AIPAC dems [2] [3] [4]

[+] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca -11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You're being absurd. Joe Biden had 4 years and didn't do any of the things I mentioned. There is also no world where Kalama builds and fill concentration camps like Trump is doing, or take away abortion rights. Trump has done everything I listed in 2 years and has 2 left to go. If you have a Latin American friend there is a decent chance he'll die in a camp. That chance was almost zero under a democrat.

All you did it listed a bunch of unrelated other bad things Democrats do. I said they do bag things. I said we need to act outside the system to change things.

I asked you why you didn't vote when it makes a difference to your friends and neighbours. You just answered "they do bag things, we need to act outside the system to change things".

How can you be this callous, completely forsaking your duty to be in solidarity to act, not for yourself, but also for everyone you're in community with and for humanity as a whole.

Edit: You're effectively listing the problems with neoliberalism as a reason to not engage in harm reduction. This is a position you might have the privilege of holding, but others do not.

[–] BanMeFromPosting@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

Whats absurd is looking at a list of sources supporting claims and stating "no none of that happened".

Joe Biden did all of the things you mentioned. That you dont like that fact does not change it.

Four years is plenty of time when it comes to overturning Roe v Wade, committing genocide, fracking like hell, expanding the police state, overseeing more queer persecution, expanding ICE, expanding the concentration camps, expanding the ongoing wars and starting new ones. Its funny how he had plenty of time and power to do that, yet four years is just no time at all when it comes to... Not doing those things. Weird. Almost like its bullshit.

I did not waste time reading the rest of your drivel. When you start out with writing something completely detached from both reality and the actual situation, then it makes it clear there is no discussion to be had, you pretty clearly signal you are a deranged zealot that cannot accept reality.
If you think you wrote something cogent which you want a response to, try to start out with engaging with material reality or at the very least engaging with the given sources.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

You're being absurd

"That doesn't look like anything to me"