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Vent: It gets quite frustrating traveling as a nonwhite american. (alien.top)

submitted 11 months ago by CanalBloody@alien.top to c/digitalnomad@expats.zone

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Tired of constantly having conversations like this:

"Where are you from?"

"USA"

"But where are you really from?/But whats your nationality?/Are you actually american?... like.. full american?"

American isnt a race! American =/= white. Yes im "full american" even though im ethnically latino! If you want to know my ethnicity/race then just ask me that instead of implying im not a "real" american.

I know most people asking this arent doing so from a place of malice, but damn does it get tiring after the 100th time.

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[–] Rustykilo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (23 children)

Yup this is why I always tell people. If you want to migrate move to the US. I have a friend who are Asian but became German. The Germans never see him as one of them. He said he will always an outsider.

[–] Acceptable-Amount-14@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (22 children)

I have a friend who are Asian but became German

He didn't became german, he got german citizenship.

German is a nationality and an ethnicity that goes back thousands of years. You don't magically become a german because you live there 7 years.

[–] Warum208@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (11 children)

A friend of mine's grandparents immigrated to Germany in the 50s. We both grew up in the same village, both speak German natively, both went to the same school. Still he is considered Turkish and I am German.

How exactly is thousand years of history important for my personal life? I don't have memories of bashing in roman heads in Teutoburg, chasing Latvians out of newly conquered Teuton land or putting Jews into gas chambers. I learned about all of these in school, just as my friend. Why me may or may not having ancestors who may or may not have done that is now important to be considered part of the in-group is not something I will ever understand.

[–] TreatedBest@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So you agree Elon Musk is the world's most successful African-American?

[–] Warum208@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Sure? Relevant why?

The dude is obviously disliked by many people for various of reasons and even then I have never seen anyone say: "Well, he isn't real American, he isn't one of us, he is just a migrant and his kids also will never be American because they don't have our hundreds years of history through our magical blood". Because Americans don't really do that.

Maybe you are referencing someone who said that, and I missed it, but the issue with picking a celebrity is that you will find just about everything being said about them.

Still, for an average white dude like you and me, it would be no problem to migrate to the US and be considered American after we get citizenship and our kids who are born there would definitely have no problem being considered American.

That's kind of what the whole thread is about.

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