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[–] rumimevlevi@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Charisma is subjective. Do you really believe trump is charismatic ?

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Trump was more charismatic than anyone he shared a debate stage with back in 2016. Maybe he was the most charismatic of the options available?

They say beauty is also subjective, yet some people are more beautiful than others. How can that be?

[–] rumimevlevi@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago

It was obvious that he was so charismatic that people though he would not win in 2016. Or maybe it was not charisma and something else that made him win. I don't think charisma is a good metric to know if JD would win and lose. I believe he would lose because he is a VP and VP are always associated with the president actions and we all know trump created a disaster.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

My opinion to charisma doesn't matter

To the country of the USA, Trump is clearly charismatic enough to be President. So is Hegseth. That's what American people want as leaders, at least in 2024.

Now how to change the American publics opinion.... well that's part of the problem.

[–] rumimevlevi@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

You literally said it is not his time to run and never win because he is not charismatic Jd vance did not try to be president yet so my question what make you sure he is not charismatic to some people?

[–] decolo@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Donnie T does, or did at one point, have a certain type of rambling uncle charisma. He could smile and wink at the audience during a shaggy-dog story and the rubes feel like they're part of something.

Jimmy Vance just sounds like he's talking down to them. He comes off as over educated without the charm needed to overcome that.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago

I was a kid from barely-above-poverty working class origins who went to an elite university on scholarship and later did consulting. So I get the Vance try-hard know-it-all routine. In my case, I put in considerable effort to make sure I never did that. I'd seen others fall into that trap and had too much self-respect. But then, I never aspired to be rich or powerful. I've lived well, but live unknown and like it that way.

Bowman seems more interested in grabbing as much money and power as he can, and if that entails him making himself a mouthpiece of some sociopathic billionaires, he'll do it.

I've seen weasels that are less twisty.

[–] rumimevlevi@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I believe he won because he was a good liar and pretended like he was anti war and for making America great and Vance would lose because he is a VP to one of the most un[popular president in America history

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

He got the job because he knew what to kiss and when.