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I fucked up Seagate 2TB Seagate USB drive (alien.top)

submitted 11 months ago by ZackCanada@alien.top to c/datahoarder@selfhosted.forum

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Hi there, I connected perfectly healthy Seagate mini 2 TB USB drive to my Synology DS923+ NAS drive. I moved files back and forth and everything was fine and dandy until I just unplugged a drive and went to connect it to my iMac. Sure, NAS software said, next time unmount drive before unplugging it. But that was after the fact. Mac can't see it no matter what. In Disk utility it's there but can't be mounted, erased, formatted, read or written. What can I do? Will PC be better in connecting to that drive. As of now it acts bricked.

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[–] HTWingNut@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well when your PC holds your USB device hostage for no apparent reason (looking at you, Windows), sometimes you have to just yank it.

[–] rajmahid@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I agree, it’s a pita to have to go through that stupid eject business but I learned quite awhile back with trashed flash drive information when I’d pull out before doing the Windows ritual.

[–] HTWingNut@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Problem is I will plug a drive in, not even write anything to it, and it frequently keeps it hostage indefinitely sometimes. Either shut down the PC or yank it out.

[–] rajmahid@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I learned to wait awhile after reading from or writing to it. It’s usually a related app that hasn’t fully shut down to “release” the drive or some buffering.

[–] HTWingNut@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Thanks. I'm aware of that, but unfortunately there's nothing to tell you what is keeping it from being released. Heck even just plugging it in without accessing it, it can be locked.

The only thing I've found is this utility that costs $30: https://safelyremove.com/features.htm

This is the kind of stuff that should be made readily available by the OS instead of a generic "can't eject now" nonsense.

I just disable windows caching to USB devices, and solves the problem, but shouldn't need to.

[–] vee_lan_cleef@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

What exactly is it "trashing" because I've been doing this for 20 years and have never lost a file. To be clear, I never put anything on a USB flash stick I'm not ready to lose in the first place, and I could just re-transfer the file or reformat it if necessary.

I even do it with bootable USB drives, windows installation, etc. Never had a problem. Not saying it's incorrect, I'm just really curious what information is being lost or corrupted when doing this, and if it really matters for the vast majority of situations, because my personal experience tells me no.

edit: I guess it's a write cache thing, I do vaguely remember this being a concern in the past, but I never had issues with just pulling the drive regardless.