Two questions.
My family insist on using Whatsapp for the family chats. I have to keep a copy on a device just so I can communicate with them. I do so under protest, as I was always told it isn't secure. My brother has just said
"oh Whatsapp is encrypted, it's perfectly secure".
First, is it actually as encrypted and safe as my brother claims? That would solve everything.
Second, if it isn't, where can I get some proof that we should switch to Telegram or whatever? Proof which doesn't make me look like a raving loony?
You and family use WhatsApp to talk to each others, just like millions families out there and so far no chats have been leaked because the encryption is bypassed.
You make your own life so complicated for what?
This is the privacy community, and they were discussing the privacy aspect.
The concern isn't about getting your chats leaked, there's no incentive to just give away data that is collected. The concern is usually about a malicious group (company, government, criminals) abusing the data that they can get their hands on.
He is talking about encryption, which I addressed. Maybe reading comprehension, eh?
Wider context matters
Two companies can advertise lockers with the same high quality lock, but one might still be better to use
Even if we specifically talk about security, one is better than the other.
WhatsApp has been endorsed by Moxie himself who invented Signal Protocol. What more do you want? Long winded talk for shit?
what
Appeals to authority are antithetical to any security assessment. Security is about capabilities, not about intentions.
i can’t find a single reference to that. i think you’re confused
"It must be encrypted well because nothing has been leaked yet" is a very, very bad stance on encryption.
In fact, every encryption is working well until it's broken the first time.
So no, you didn't address shit.
Yea yea, if even Signal Protocol cant do shit, your shit can't do anything as well. 🤣
All you guys do is talking without any solid base. Sigh.
That comment does not make sense.
If you lack knowledge , admit it.
WhatsApp is using Signal Protocol.
It is very unpleasant to communicate with you.
It is still unclear what you meant with "your shit".
Apart from that I did not argue against the signal protocol, I argued against your idiotic stance on encryption.
So? We just have differing view. No more, no less.
Bring your shit elsewhere don't present it to me.
Are you able to coherently answer or is it going to stay like this? Because then I will end this conversation here.
You've been nothing but rude in this entire conversation. You havent articulated a rationale in any of your messages for your position that encryption doesn't matter, or that closed source is good enough. You don't have a clear and defensible argument that we can engage with. You're just throwing insults, granted most of the insults are passive insults, so kudos for that.
Using the Voyager app I never see anybody's profile photos I don't even think I have one.
For what it's worth I don't think this guy's a troll. I think he doesn't have the social graces to have a productive discussion. So he drives by a conversation drops his opinion you either agree with it or your insulted. There's no growth, but I think it's a very genuine human behind that keyboard emoting genuinely.
Give it up, you sound like either a you don’t know what you’re talking about or a you’re a bootlicker for facebook.
You’re never going to win a pro Facebook argument in this community.
Bro are you high or something?