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    [–] M500@lemmy.ml 148 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I was just thinking about why many things on Linux are better. Like the install process on Linux is years ahead of windows.

    Then it occurred to me that windows only improves things that can make them money. If you need to install windows, then you can deal with the crappy installer.

    Linux devs improve the parts they think need to be better. The decisions are not guided by money and can be made without bias.

    [–] exocortex@discuss.tchncs.de 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Now that you've got the idea apply it to everything in capitalist society. Especially if something is owned by shareholders.

    [–] cuibono@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

    This realization somehow amazes and depresses me at the same time

    [–] danc4498@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Most people don’t install windows. It comes pre installed on something they bought. Microsoft probably puts more time into automating the process.

    Also, last time I installed windows it was a breeze. I haven’t installed Linux in at least a decade, so I can’t speak for that.

    [–] kaboom36@ani.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Try installing debian some time, the installer makes windows' installer feel like its for a piece of software you got of a sketchy site that wants to install 16 other things not even related to it

    [–] hackris@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I mean, sounds exactly like the Windows installer to me

    [–] kaboom36@ani.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    We must be using different installers then, because between the amount of telemetry you have to turn off, the dark patterns, and the insistence on using a Microsoft account the whole experience reminds me of installing one of those "driver updaters" when I was a kid and before I learned that was a very bad idea

    [–] captain_oni@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

    I trust Bonzi Buddy more than anything made by microsoft at this point.

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Sounds like the decisions about what to make, how to make it and for whom to make it are done by the people doing the work. 🤔🫢

    [–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

    Linux devs improve the parts they think need to be better. The decisions are not guided by money and can be made without bias.

    Sounds pretty communist

    [–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The install process on windows is clicking a few buttons.

    For the vast majority of users it's a way better experience.

    [–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago

    From my experience(installing windows 10, 11, linux mint and nobara), installing linux is way easier than installing windows

    [–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The install process on windows is clicking a few buttons.

    That's the default tracking experience, if you fall for all the dark patterns. Was a while ago, hunh?

    [–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

    Again the vast vast majority of users don't care. And that's their target audience.

    [–] scarilog@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

    There's that one screen where you disable telemetry, which I've always consider a part of the install process, but is there anything malicious other than that? The process as a whole is quite straightforward in my experience.