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I think its because we aren't allowed by default to post images, which I completely understand after what happened back a couple months ago. I've been using Lemmy for more then 4 months actively but yet I still don't have permission to post pictures because of the fact that I'm too lazy to even try to get it enabled. This is a major reason why we aren't seeing a lot of content.
Also, this tends to be mostly a leftist leaning app, so maybe some people get drawn away.
I was really on-board of the idea of Lemmy in the beginning. It all made a lot of sense, and I felt like a part of the community.
But now it feels like its just an echo chamber of people, who seems to have very extreme beliefs.
It's starting to be clear that the whole "ML - Leninism Marxism" was actually a big part of Lemmy.
I'm a centrist, slightly leaning towards the left, but I don't feel like I truly belong in the demographic of Lemmy any longer. Reddit is starting to pull me back, and Boost still works, which only makes it harder to resist...
Extreme leftist politics, memes, linux, a weirdly active Star Trek community (comparatively) and blocking furry/anime porn communities daily. That's been my experience so far.
Blocking communities is a full-time job in this place.
How so?
Haha I'm not hating on it, I love Star Trek. It just seems like 10% of the posts I see are Star Trek memes sometimes.
I feel the same way sometimes. I'm a centrist as well, a lot of the people on both sidee in this platform do have extreme takes and have the "You must agree with me or I will ban you" attitude. I wish it was a bit more diverse, whenever I come on Lemmy it is completely saturated with leftists post. I have nothing against people on the left, its just the fact that content is so obviously saturated with it.
What really made me want to leave lemmy more than anything so far was seeing a completely negative reaction to anyone calling out the Kissinger death posts being spammed like junk mail all over the fediverse.
“What? You don’t like seeing the same post 50 times in one day? Fuck you, downvoted. I wanted this guy dead so any post gets an upvote from me”
That’s the kind of attitude that will drive users away and turn this venture into a political liquid shit puddle. We need variety. Not an echo chamber. Lemmy was quite literally unusable during that period so I stopped opening it.
Also how some people don’t want Lemmy to grow because they like the smaller community feel, while simultaneously putting off a groupthink attitude that will only shrink it more. Essentially a kind of sentiment that lemmy should be what they want, and not what’s best for the platform and majority of users overall.
I left Lemmy for like 6 months because I got tired of the echo chamber. I'm usually inclined to the left but this was just too much and too extreme. There were some pretty interesting topics that I learned here, like how badly designed society is and why cars are an artificial need. Those "intellectual" discussions (if you could call them that) kept me engaged, but even those spaces were ruined by people totally closed to the idea of a middle-ground.
I can tell you're extreme left. When I see people like you posting stuff like this, it looks just as crazy as MAGA cultists. I don't want to be associated with people who are toxic and vile to everyone around them. If the world was full of people like what you are portraying here, society would not be better.
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I'm not actually seeing tankies around, any more -- lemmygrad banned me within days so that their minds wouldn't be polluted by my arguments, and whatever happened to hexbear I don't know they seem to have largely defederated again.
I am honestly put off by people who really go by Marxist-Leninist schtick. This whole thing reminds of the old anecdote about a dialogue between a jew and God about the Holocaust: "I guess you had to be there". Seeing privileged white kids run around the internet calling for good old Lenin/Stalin times are no better than bonehead Nazis fighting their own fears materialized as Yet Another [racist slur of your choice].
It's entertaining for like five minutes, but the joke gets tiresome very quickly.
being left leaning is not the issue, but when opinions even slightly to the right of extreme left are censored and removed, it doesn't encourage participation or conversation
Where is that happenening outside of lemmygrad? I have literally never once seen that happening outside of that place...
Though it happens literally 24/7 on alt-right social media or reddit /r/conservative 😂 you can speedrun any% ban time by saying "I think covid was handled poorly" lol
Plenty of liberal techbros around on lemmy. Also are you aware of the Nazi Bar phenomenon.
I'm liberal, but no techbro. Try saying something remotely luddite and watch what happens.
Iron pans >>> Teflon.
Gas stove >>> induction stove
Hell no. Gas stoves heat the air more than they heat food, they're dirty (both in terms of emissions and being a bugger to clean) and not a single bit faster. With ordinary resistive electric you might've had half a point, gas has its pros and cons there, but induction is superior to all in all relevant metrics. Well, modulo woks that's a different topic but do you even have one.
My point has been proven. You fell right into my trap.
Literally the entire point of this thread is that "you get censored for saying things that aren't hard left."
Someone disagreeing with you is literally the furthest thing from censure. They can still see and react enough to disagree with you.
Look, you comment is still up and will stay up forever. What a shit trap when you don't even know what you are trying to "prove."
Also, both gas and induction have their place. Not everything is either/or.
Gladly so. After all, all I proved is that I care about how well a thing works, not about how old or new it is. For you, as a liberal, of course, "working well" is a category that includes capitalism so...
That's what I was getting at though. Differing opinions are attacked around here. The lemmy "hive mind" is way more bullshit than reddit ever was.
The marketplace of ideas is not, in fact, a place where you go and spend money to buy or sell ideas. It involves attacking one another's ideas.
You have a shitty world view.
Was that an attack on my ideas? Seems you agree, then.
That was a statement of fact. I suggest you do some research into a thing called "discourse"
What are your objective standards for "shittiness", your arguments for the judgement to not be subjective?
I'm rubber you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.
A smart and kind person, a gentleman and a scholar.
I thought you'd like that. Speaking your language.
No images is I think a lemm.ee-only thing, other instances are still allowing it. It was severely size-limited even before the whole CSAM situation to save on storage, and, IIRC, paraphrasing sunaurus: "Imgur exists."
Can you explain to me what happened a couple months ago why people can't post pictures? And what should one do to enable it?
CSAM Spam. That's what happened. Most people thankfully only noticed the moderator posts, but those understandably don't want to have to filter that all day long.
How do you get image upload enabled btw?
Im not sure how lemm.ee handles it but a lot of instances that aren't lemm.ee dont have uploads disabled
For example this post has an image uploaded to .world
Idk reddit even has become wayy more leftist. Its just the inevitable trend