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What is a self-hosted app/os/service/ect that is widely "known" as being fully open source, but it actually relies significantly on closed source software? (alien.top)
submitted 11 months ago by AllTheModzAreCancer@alien.top to c/main@selfhosted.forum
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I was looking into Tailscale which I thought to be complexly open source, but it turns out that their coordination server is closed source. If you want to run your own open source coordination server, Headscale is the go-to option.

This is no fault of their own (as they freely express this in their FAQ) it's just that I had always been told by people that Tailscale was fully open source. This got me wondering what else is not as open source as people widely accept it to be?

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[–] agent_kater@alien.top 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Telegram is known for being open source, but since it isn't, you can't self-host it. Does that count in the sense if your question?

[–] lilolalu@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I am not a fan of telegram, but the clients and the protocol are open source.

[–] tech2but1@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Where Telegram seems to come in handy is using the bots to send alerts, e.g. from Uptime Kuma. That's all I use it for, I presume that's what most of us use it for?

[–] lilolalu@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If that's what you are using it for, I would suggest looking into Matrix / Element. Just as easy, completely open source and self hostable. Wide variety of client choices for every OS.

[–] FierceDeity_@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The server, though, is made in pretty inefficient python, eating a lot of resources to run. There are rust, c++ and go implementations promising to be less intensive

[–] lilolalu@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I think for the purpose of 99% if the self hosters, which is an instance for maybe a of a couple of hundred of users, this doesnt matter at all:

https://matrix.org/ecosystem/servers/