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Can't you just use the bank website instead of an app?
No. All of the fucking banks make their own shitty app for 2FA, no way around it, at least in Europe. They are buggy, bad UX and less secure than simple TOTP but have their own dev departments to employ. I hate them with a passion.
This is what we do in my house. Pretty easy.
some banks only have apps
Yikes. I'd change banks
The website unfortunately doesn't offer the same user experience as the app, some functions are more "hidden" or behind more dialogue compared to the app
What bank do you use that doesn't have a website?
Look into GrapheneOS. It's pretty easy to install on a Pixel device if you're willing to spend a few hours on it (might be less, assuming all your USB cables work first go 'round, unlike mine 🙄) and it's been a great daily driver for me. You don't have to install Google Play stuff, but if you need it for an app like banking you can run it all sandboxed and control all the permissions. Only thing I lost was Gboard's ability to send GIFs (because I have it sandboxed; I could get it back if I wanted to let it connect to the internet). You might be able to get a Pixel 6a for like $200 soon too, I think I saw something about a sale coming up on the Google store.
Up for GrapheneOS! It's weird that to have a degoogled phone you need to buy Google's ones but so far is the smoothest ungoogled experience I had (I tried LineageOS without GApps, LineageOS with microG and /e/ OS in case you were wondering) Also, since google services are installed in a sandbox you could even have a profile where you have them and all apps that require Google Play separated from the profile you normally use which is pretty cool (even if I'm using them sandboxed just with the permissions I need on my primary profile atm)
can confirm! grapheneos is great, ive had no problems w it
I know the feeling. I tried using a de-googled LineageOS for a while, but it just wasn’t viable because today’s world simply isn’t compatible with this lifestyle any more. I wish this technology had existed back in 2010, because I would have been completely free of Google. Living without all the fancy apps and stuff would have been fine, but living without money… that’s where I draw the line.
Have you tried using the aurora store?
i gotta say this: dont bank on your phone. downvote me all you want but i dont think its secure. its almost just as easy to do it in a computer
Your phone is probably the most secure device you own, provided you don't download shit like TikTok.
I disagree. Most phones can only run proprietary operating systems and the modem runs its own proprietary operating system, which very likely has access to system memory. Your phone carrier tracks you everywhere you go and can listen to your phone calls.
true, *unless you are running a proprietry os, so, most normie phones.
why exactly is it mandatory ?
I was pretty happy with my lineage-os install that had the play store as the only google service. F-droid for other apps, nextcloud for cloud+calendar. But you need an unlockable phone and a bank that allows unlocked phones for their app.
If its only cuz of the unlocked bootloader have a look at DivestOS, Graphene or Calyx
Edit: i use my ING Banking App on my Pixel 6 with graphene and before on my OP6 with Divest
Yeah my next phone will probably be a pixel specifically so I can load it with GrapheneOS.
iOS.