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White House threatens to veto anti-EV bill just passed by US House::The bill would prevent the EPA from enforcing tougher new pollution standards.

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[โ€“] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Full evs will fill a landfill in 15 years time and need an entire new car to be built to replace it. New 1500 lbs of lithium and Cobalt and nickel battery as well to be mined.

You want to help the environment you'd be doing far more by installing solar on your roof and buying an ice vehicle than you would be by buying an EV with today's battery tech in it. How "green" they are is only skin deep right now. That will change later when more electricity is from renewable sources and batteries in EV's improve beyond what they're at using heavy li po chemistry. But that's later. Not now.

[โ€“] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Full evs will fill a landfill in 15 years time and need an entire new car to be built to replace

Doesn't that applies to any car? or you mean because many EV companies make it difficult to repair their product using a 3ed party? That's why we need a "right to repair bill", there is nothing fundamental in EV cars that make them non-serviceable.

New 1500 lbs of lithium and Cobalt and nickel battery as well to be mined

I agree that EVs are not as green as one might think and I am also hopefully that things will change in the future. however that doesn't mean we stick with ordinary cars for now. If no body buy EV, the companies would simply shut down and there won't be "future" to talk about.

It like solar panel they used to have terrible efficiency and lot of gas emission producing them and people were wondering if they really are any greener but had people stopped buying them back then, we wouldn't have better versions today.