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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I think it's a bit crazy to create a paid service on top of a reverse engineered product that isn't static. Indivious, NewPipe and other youtube frontends aren't going to create a paid youtube frontend, because they know Google could kill that at any point. Google could dedicate a full team to making youtube frontends non-functional.

Apple has a much bigger incentive to derail iMessage alternatives because they know that dumb parents have taught their kids how to live in a closed ecosystem and be slaves to Apple. 87% of USAian teenagers use Apple, which means it's only a matter of time before Apple becomes the dominant player on the market. If you want to keep making fat stacks of cash, the best thing you can do is control the market, which means killing of competition.

The only reason Apple would ever stop killing competitors is if it became legally and financially detrimental to do so. They'd have to reach Microsoft levels of antitrust and bad press before even considering backpedaling.

Everyone buying their products is helping Apple along to their goal of market dominance.

[–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I mean, the proof of concept is open source, so anyone can go out and make their own iMessaging service now.

I'm okay with paying for this because they need to run a service for notifications and they also have to play this cat and mouse game with Apple.

The fact that Beeper has already come up with a patch to workaround Apple's block show's that they're going to work hard to keep this service running.

Edit: Beeper mini is still down, but Beeper Cloud is back up.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah if Apple is willing to invest tons of money to keep using literal slaves (or at least to be intentionally ignorant about slavery in their supply chain) they aren't going to be chivalrous about someone circumventing their intentional attempts to amp up class based marketing pressure for their apps.

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

USAian

If you really want to go down that road, use something like “United Statesman” or something that actually fits the language. “Americanian” is absurd and people will take you less seriously for it.

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Spanish has it: estadounidense (unitedstatesian)

Other than that, it's no one's fault but the USA's they gave their country such a stupid name (stealing the one of the continent)

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I really hate to break it to you, but the name “America” didn’t come from the Americans.

(And if the person I replied to had been speaking in Spanish, I wouldn’t have had any reason to reply.)

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I hate to break it to you, but the name America as it was chosen by Europeans was meant to be the name of the continent.

The name USA was chosen by unitedstatesians when creating the country. A stupid mistake. Everyone else managed to pick a name, Canada, Mexico, Chile, Argentina.... but not the USA.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

USAian reads better than USAn 🤷 And I'm not going to type out "United Statesman" every time I want to refer to something USAian like a car. "United Statesman car".

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

“USAian” doesn’t read better than anything when it’s a made up word that looks ridiculous. Just say “a US car” or “American”.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Eggyhead@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

lol alright then. Good luck dictating how a language operates.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Like you were trying to dictate how I speak? Yeah, I won't be doing that.

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, my dude. You just seemed like a non-native speaker of English and I was trying to help you out. It’s what I do for a living. I’ll be happy to teach “USAian” to my students if it ever becomes commonplace vernacular that they would likely hear on the streets. Unfortunately since it’s kind of grammatically nonsensical and weirder to both say and understand, that might take a whole lot more effort to accomplish than you seem to think it will. Good luck though. I find linguistic evolution interesting, so I won’t stop you.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

I see now where you were coming from. It would've helped to ask if I was a non-native speaker.

Nobody's forcing anybody to say USAian. It's a personal preference and it gets the point across.