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[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I'm surprised Russia voted for the ceasefire. I would expect them to appreciate the distraction.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 34 points 9 months ago

They appreciate being seen as opposing the west even more. Especially when it comes to toothless UN resolutions.

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dmitriy Polyanskiy, Russia’s representative, said US diplomacy was "leaving scorched earth in its wake". He said if an immediate ceasefire was blocked by the US again, how could the country look its partners in the eye? He called on the US to "make the right choice" and support the demand for an end to violence.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Funny from a country currently invading its neighbor

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago

The russian hypocricsy should not distract from the truth therein. What happens now is the US foreign policy dream. Instead of having to destabilize the middle east by themselves, they just need to supply Israel with more weapons and money, so they will do it for them.

[–] Gxost@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They don't want Hamas to be eliminated. Russia is always for ceasefire when its side is loosing.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago

Optics. Israel and Russia are both on massacre sides

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 9 points 9 months ago

It's solely due to US being the bad side along with Israel, they're trying to shift the narrative.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

They know America is going to veto it because they're israel's bitches. And it looks way better for countries like Iran which supply Russia with drones to bomb Ukraine with.

Ironically Russia is winning support with their stance on human rights over America in this conflict. Zelensky sucking Netanyahu off also doesn't promote the Arabs views of Ukraine.

Even China dunked on America yesterday at the UN, that's when you know it's bad

[–] Muyal@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People when they find out geopolitics is complex and there ano real bad guys like in the movies.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure a country that's committing mass genocide with imperial ambitions who commits daily war crimes and meddles in other countries' affairs to sow division and distrust is very clearly "the bad guy". How can you claim otherwise? You can't "both sides" the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

[–] Muyal@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. And who keeps giving all those weapons and money to Israel while they are carrying out a genocide?

Let's face it. A single country can be the bad guy in one situation and the good guy in another.

Also, it's always funny when the US accuses other countries of foreign interference and genocide, because they surely had no problem doing that to Latin America.

[–] teichflamme@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can't think of a lot of situations where Russia would be the good guy tbh

[–] Muyal@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You need to research about African decolonization movements back in the 60's.

When African countries declared themselves independent they mostly got support from the USSR, while the US and the west in general acted in a very hostile way.

Anti-apartheid movements got labelled as "terrorists" by the US, but on the contrary, received a lot of support from Russia.

Ir certainly says something that nobody in the west opposed apartheid until socialism was no longer a threat in the 90's

[–] teichflamme@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That is kinda funny, because the USSR was incredibly racist and you're still not very welcome in Russia as a person of color.

You need to research about African decolonization movements back in the 60's.

"Despite the widely reported Soviet support for the ANC and otherwise liberation movements, the Soviet Union also engaged in some trade with South Africa during the apartheid era, mostly involving arms and some mineral resources."

So, they delivered weapons to the Apartheid regime?

I've seen an interesting article stating this: " Less well appreciated is the role that external authoritarian actors have played in facilitating this deterioration. Russia stands out in this regard. Among other aims, undermining democracy has been a strategic objective of Russia’s Africa policy for the past two decades. " https://africacenter.org/spotlight/russia-interference-undermine-democracy-africa/

[–] Muyal@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

When it comes to racism, that still doesn't change the fact that the west has a terrible history of it. There is a reason why you see the AK-47 in a few African flags.

How is the west treating Africans and Palestinians right now?

And again, they have also no problem dealing with (and in some cases supporting) African authoritarian regimes. So how are they morally superior to Russia in that regard?