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Pluralistic: “If buying isn’t owning, piracy isn’t stealing” (pluralistic.net)
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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't see how that compares. Trains need human labour and lots of resources to function.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How do you think movies, music, games, books, or any form of media is produced?

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Operating a train is not creating a train. And media does not require resources to operate, so nothing is lost when digital media is used by someone without paying.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

so nothing is lost when digital media is used by someone without paying.

Using, no. Acquiring, yes.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, nothing was lost when the copy was acquired, because copying does not remove the original. Literally, nothing is lost.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Lost sales are considered damages, so yes something is lost.

EDIT: This is worse than arguing with SovCits.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Bruh, no one in here is arguing about legality, we're arguing about morality, and no one but corporate shills buy into "potential sales" having value.

You're trying to argue against what people just fundamentally, intuitively understand; copyright is a legal construct (not a moral one) that is 99% bullshit.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Bruh, no one in here is arguing about legality

What are you talking about? That's literally the entire point of the article and this comment section.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 10 points 11 months ago

Now you're the one being obtuse, unless you're claiming that you're actually arguing that you can be charged with theft, which you can't be, because legally, copyright infringement isn't theft.

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Yes, but then everyone started talking about morality.

[–] Zworf@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

What if you were never going to buy it?