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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 56 points 2 years ago (98 children)

Piracy isn't stealing anyway. You're not removing the data from the original owner.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (63 children)

How do you feel about jumping the turnstile at a train station?

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I don't see how that compares. Trains need human labour and lots of resources to function.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How do you think movies, music, games, books, or any form of media is produced?

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Operating a train is not creating a train. And media does not require resources to operate, so nothing is lost when digital media is used by someone without paying.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

so nothing is lost when digital media is used by someone without paying.

Using, no. Acquiring, yes.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, nothing was lost when the copy was acquired, because copying does not remove the original. Literally, nothing is lost.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Lost sales are considered damages, so yes something is lost.

EDIT: This is worse than arguing with SovCits.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Bruh, no one in here is arguing about legality, we're arguing about morality, and no one but corporate shills buy into "potential sales" having value.

You're trying to argue against what people just fundamentally, intuitively understand; copyright is a legal construct (not a moral one) that is 99% bullshit.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Bruh, no one in here is arguing about legality

What are you talking about? That's literally the entire point of the article and this comment section.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago

Now you're the one being obtuse, unless you're claiming that you're actually arguing that you can be charged with theft, which you can't be, because legally, copyright infringement isn't theft.

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Yes, but then everyone started talking about morality.

[–] Zworf@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

What if you were never going to buy it?

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