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[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Is this feasible? Will the gov't take on the cost of building and maintaining sufficient charging stations? Will the price of new EV cars become more affordable? How will the auto industry feel (i.e., lobby) about EVs being the only new cars they can sell? Will auto-associated industries (like repair garages) transition smoothly from ICE to electric vehicles? I imagine the secondary market for ICE cars will explode around 2035. After seeing what's happened with the much much easier to implement carbon tax, I'm skeptical of this highly ambitious plan working. Increasing rebates for EV bikes seems like a better place to start. There might be more of this "sounds great but how's it going to happen?" legislation to come as Trudeau tries to hold onto leadership of the Liberal party. I think protecting the environment is really important. Perhaps too important to leave to politicians versus scientists

[–] bluGill@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Sure it is feasible - they have 11 years to build it..

Gas stations are built all the time, and they get the pumps updated and changed all the time. Now everyone in the business is on notice to factor this into their plan. With gas sales dropping off over time that changes how/when you update equipment plenty of money to make today, but you invest less for the future knowing that if your gas pump breaks after 2030 you are likely to just scrap it. The market for the other things gas stations sell still exists (cigarettes have been clearly dieing for decades - something they have experience in managing) Some will install EV chargers - something they now have more confidence in doing.

Auto manufactures already is aware of this, laws just encourage them to work on plans, and 11 years is plenty of time - almost all vehicles get major design changes more often than that.

Some mechanics will hang on to "buggy whips", but most will see and adjust when forced. Those that can't - they need to get out of the industry - the world has too many ludites holding us back already.

The secondary market for ICEs will explode for a bit, but by 2040 people will start feeling pain from the lack of gas pumps. Then the only people interested in an ICE will be those who really can't get by with an EV, by 2045 they will be special ordering fuel at high costs.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You raise some excellent points! And thank you for your thoughtful response!

I hope industry will be as forward-thinking as you believe they will be, even if we have a federal Conservative majority 2 years from now.

[–] bluGill@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

IF you see my post elsewhere I laid out a simple trick the liberals can use to ensure the conservative response won't change much..

[–] Splitdipless@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

11 years is a long time for some things, and too late for other things. It's a bold statement about a goal line I expect to shift by constant small movements by this party as reality doesn't match their enthusiasm, and broad leaps by another party when they get a chance.

[–] Hypx@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago

This is pure wishful thinking. ICE cars will outlast BEVs. It's the fuel, not the powertrain, that is the problem. BEVs are one of the least effective ways of tackling this problem.

I'm on board for this legislation but I also think these are all very valid points.