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First look at Star Trek: Prodigy season 2 is out.

The Doctor/EHM returns, as does the Voyager-A. Inject it into my veins. 🙂

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[–] passinglurker@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

a refitted Intrepid-class and outfitted with technology Voyager gathered from her 7-year journey through the Delta Quadrant. It has 29 decks, 800+ crew and 2 schools, compared to Voyager’s 15 decks and 160 crew.

How do you fit 14 extra decks into a refit? with that many decks this ship would be the size of a sovereign class.

[–] GoodAaron@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s a refitted Lamarr class, not an Intrepid class.

Yes, that is what I was saying...

[–] khaosworks@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As we’ve seen in PIC with the Titan-A, Starfleet engineers have a very loose definition of what constitutes a refit. Basically as long as you use some of the old structure in the new one, no matter how many doodads you add or on to expand it, they call it a refit.

[–] passinglurker@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think that flies here. The Luna class and Neo-Connie have arguably similar internal volume so taking the bits out of a Luna could be enough to drive a Neo-Connie. Going from Intrepid sized to Sovereign sized though is a much bigger jump. Also I don't see where you're getting the word "refit" from in the first place? are you just assuming cause the ship is roughly intrepid shaped?

[–] khaosworks@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I may have misinterpreted what the Doctor was saying - “Lamarr Special-class… refitted from stem to stern”. He could be referring to a refitted Lamarr. I’ll edit that.

[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think your assessment of the Luna-class and the Constitution III is accurate. They are entirely different, and the PIC production crew deciding that "refit" is basically just a word that the Starfleet Corps of Engineers will drop at a hat doesn't change that.

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The instagram log that explains the history of the Titan A claims that it was constructed "using much of the internal components" of the Luna-class ship, and that's why it's a refit, but that plans to build the new ship on the spaceframe of the old were set aside mid-way through.

[–] passinglurker@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Obviously the Neo-Connie space frame is a new build due to its size but I don't see how that stops them from reusing the warp core, warp coils, computer core, etc.

[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, absolutely. But that's not really what the term refit means.

And if that is a refit in Starfleet parlance -- as the instagram log claims it is -- than what prevents the Lamaar-class Voyager from also being a refit. Keep in mind that in "The Star Gazer", Picard claimed that the new Stargazer was also a refit, and, according to Matalas, it was a refit of the Constellation-class Stargazer:

"Like the TMP Enterprise, it’s a massively updated refit. I like to think of it as the story of the broom: If one day you replace the handle, and another day the brush, is it still the same broom? We thought of it as a vessel endlessly repaired and upgraded, brought in-line with current-future tech, so that somewhere underneath all the lights and polish are the bones of Picard’s original ship. Does it make sense? I don’t know. But I sure like the spirit of it."

Now, personally, I would prefer to not take anything Terry Matalas says seriously, but a lot of people seem tot think he should be Trek's new torchbearer, so there's a good chance we'll see a lot more of this nonsense in the future.