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We’ve known that the iPhone is switching to USB-C for a while now, but there was always a possibility that Apple would stick with Lightning for one more year. Based on the latest leaked images, however, Apple is all-in on USB-C for the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro models, with USB-C parts for the iPhone 15, iPhone 15 Plus, and iPhone 15 Pro Max all shown in a leaked image by X user fix Apple.

With the switch to USB-C, nearly all of Apple’s devices will have adopted the new standard, with only AirPods, Mac accessories, and the iPhone SE remaining aside from older iPhones and the 9th-gen iPad.

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[–] ArtificialLink@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes they can. Its just all about labeling. They can label a cable that fits to the standard and say "made for apple"

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, the regulation isn't just usb-c, it's usb-c and power delivery. Apple can't magically escape both of them with a "made for apple" cable. It must accept all third party cable and charger.

[–] Rootiest@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Of course they can:

USB -PD support at limited speeds.

A proprietary Apple chip enables higher speeds, either using USB-PD still or another proprietary charging protocol.

They can just have both

[–] Oneser@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As I commented above, the regulation clearly states "any additional charging protocol allows for the full functionality of PD.. irrespective of the charging device used."

So they can't have both unless they split EU & RoW devices.

[–] CleoTheWizard@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

I hadn’t heard this. Good on the EU not letting them squirrel out of this (hopefully)

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

No:

In so far as they are capable of being recharged via wired charging at voltages higher than 5 volts, currents higher than 3 amperes or powers higher than 15 watts, the categories or classes of radio equipment referred to in point 1 letters a) to m) shall:

(a) incorporate the USB Power Delivery, as described in the standard EN IEC 62680-1- 2:2021 ‘Universal serial bus interfaces for data and power - Part 1-2: Common components - USB Power Delivery specification’;

(b) ensure that any additional charging protocol allows the full functionality of the USB Power Delivery referred to in point (a), irrespective of the charging device used.

https://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/ST-10713-2022-INIT/x/pdf

[–] oktoberpaard@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago

The regulation actually enforces that PD is implemented if high speed charging is available and that it can’t be limited in speed compared to any other charging protocol that’s also available on the device, irrespective of the charging device used.

We don’t need to guess if we can just read the regulation: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32022L2380&qid=1691523718368.

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wouldn't that be false advertising? It needs some internal feature that makes it faster, and there's no way it'll naturally be faster than a regular USB-C.

[–] ArtificialLink@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is it false advertising? Apple makes a cord to spec and standard and slaps a "made for apple" tag line on it. Its just marketing. Nothing special about the cable. Its just a way to ensure apple fanboys buy it.

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

making iPhones use a “Made for Apple” type of cable for faster charging speeds

The bolded part is the problematic bit.

[–] ArtificialLink@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never said for faster speeds. All it has to say is "made for apple".

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay...but that's what the guy you were originally replying to had quoted...I think we can both agree it changes quite a bit if you don't include the faster speed.