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Banks hit with $549 million in fines for use of Signal, WhatsApp to evade regulators’ reach::Wells Fargo, a relatively small player on Wall Street, racked up the most fines Tuesday, with a total of $200 million in penalties.

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[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 94 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's cost if doing business for them though, the "fines" are a farce, just protection money paid to a gang.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (10 children)

they really need to start with forfeiting all profits. and then maybe a percentage-based fine on top of that.

make it really painful, in the only place these people can be hurt.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

They need to start throwing these criminal fucks in prison.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They'll just pass it along to the customers though, that would have to be made very illegal first.. and even then they'd probably do it anyway and blame it on the tellers. In the sea of illegal things Wells Fargo has already done that wouldn't even make a ripple.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Can't pass anything to the customer if your business got closed by the authorities.

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[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

I feel like they need to apply charges like conspiracy and fraud against the individuals responsible. When I worked in national security oriented roles, the standard response when being asked to break the law (eg reveal classified info) was to say “I could do that, but I look really bad in orange.”

If the individuals being asked to commit violations and crimes were held individually responsible more often, people would be less likely to do it.

White collar crime costs the economy far more than other kinds of crime, and that’s due to a lack of enforcement caused by misaligned priorities.

[–] overzeetop@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The obvious first step is revocation and personal barring for life every single person who participated in the communication from holding a SEC license. The second is jail time for anyone who did it willfully. The third is revocation of their corporation or, in the interest of stockholders who are about to become personally liable, a 50 year probationary period in which revocation of corporation is automatic should any other infraction come to light.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

But since the wolves are minding the hen house that'll never happen.. it'll take French tactics.

[–] demonquark@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fines as a percentage of revenue. A big percentage. That’ll stop this nonsense.

[–] overzeetop@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Revocation of corporate status. A corporation is a status set out in US law. No corporate status, no legal protection for officers or shareholders. All liability falls personally and directly on the owners.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, seriously, why do people forget this so easily? THE GOVERNMENT GRANTS SPECIAL PRIVILEGES TO CORPORATIONS. Any stipulations, limitations, or exceptions are absolutely fair game. Ideally, we grant corporate charters to promote commerce and benefit society. Nobody has a right to a corporate charter, so if a corporation is harming us, we should terminate it like the pregnancy of a Republican's mistress.