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Windows 10 end of life could prompt torrent of e-waste as 240 million devices set for scrapheap::As Windows 10 end of life approaches, analysts are concerned that millions of devices will be scrapped due to incompatibility

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Incompatibility with what? Things are only just starting to be incompatible with Windows 7. I've still got customers running variants of Windows XP.

And Windows 11 doesn't really contain much that won't work on 10.

I reckon the TPM and secure boot requirements will eventually be dropped. They're the Kinect of Windows 11.

[–] hamid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're probably not correct about TPM and secure boot being dropped. Microsoft's entire enterprise line of security products including Intune and Defender for Endpoint are integrated to it and Microsoft Azure AD/Entra ID uses it for their certificate based enrollment and authentication. This is their primary profit drivers, not consumers.

[–] Rednax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Disabling the tpm requirement is just a registry hack in win 10, or a selectable option when creating an install usb with rufus.

I think they will make a simple calculation; What is going to cost more: The bad PR of nolonger updating 240 million pc's, or accepting that a small portion of your users does not have tpm?

They haven't stopped advanced users from installing win11 on older hardware so far. So no loss there. I also doubt they lose enterprise money if they allow win10 to upgrade regardless, as tpm is now well entrenched as the default on new hardware.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm still not even sure why they decided to require TPM anyways. But yeah my computer is among the many that can't upgrade until that's gone. I guess it's either that or I learn a lot more about Linux...

[–] jdaxe@infosec.pub 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least if you switch to Linux there's no shortage of people on the fediverse willing to answer questions.

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There should be a "Linux hotline" community where people can post whatever is stopping them from switching and get solutions

[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Elsewhere, Linux support areas seem more likely than not to have a large contingent of “WHY ARE YOU ASKING A DUMB QUESTION, you horror of a human being? Why didn’t you Search the site for words you don’t know using our broken search engine, instead of infecting us with your congenital idiocy?” folks.

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I use Arch too!

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

exactly, I admit to sharing some of the "bro its so easy" attitude, but that should result in simple answers instead of berating, like a "no stupid questions" but for linux thing

[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 1 year ago

Going the linux way can be troublesome at first, but you will be free from ms bullshit in the long run and will have your hardware lasting much longer. Unless you need something specific to windows for work, I recommend trying linux.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's just another scam for them to make money