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We’ve known that the iPhone is switching to USB-C for a while now, but there was always a possibility that Apple would stick with Lightning for one more year. Based on the latest leaked images, however, Apple is all-in on USB-C for the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro models, with USB-C parts for the iPhone 15, iPhone 15 Plus, and iPhone 15 Pro Max all shown in a leaked image by X user fix Apple.

With the switch to USB-C, nearly all of Apple’s devices will have adopted the new standard, with only AirPods, Mac accessories, and the iPhone SE remaining aside from older iPhones and the 9th-gen iPad.

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[–] MangoKangaroo@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

lightning doesn’t get junk in the ports

How the heck are you getting gunk in your USB C ports? 🤨

for the time

Indeed, it was probably fine ten years ago. But, as Mac Address (among many others) rightly pointed out, transferring gigabytes of HD video over a shoddy USB 2.0 line is a less-than-ideal experience.

way easier to use than usb c

How?

[–] Auk@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How the heck are you getting gunk in your USB C ports? 🤨

How are you not getting lint and dust in your USB C ports? Not really a problem with computers due to the cleaner usage environment but I have to clean out the port on my phone every few months or the cable will start losing connection at the slightest bump.

I wouldn't expect Lightning is immune from this either but it likely is less of an issue there due to having less narrow gaps for lint to get caught in the port.

[–] MangoKangaroo@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know, but given the apparent volume of people having this issue I'm starting to think I might just have a special talent. Maybe my case is getting in the way?

Edit: okay I actually went and shined a light in my Pixel 7 Pro's port. It has the tiniest bit of dust build-up but nothing that's prevented my charger from working properly. Unfortunately, my speaker grills have not been so lucky.

[–] Someusernamehuh@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've had my phone for near 4 years now and have never once had to clean out the charging port or the headphone jack for that matter. What are you doing to have that issue?

[–] Auk@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just carrying it in my pocket all day, nothing unusual. I might get a bit more lint forming or dust falling into my pocket than some people since I have a fairly active job but that applies to many others too. It's not just a USB-C thing either as I found micro USB to similarly build up stuff inside the port. Headphone jacks I never had a problem with when I had a phone or mp3 player with one, I guess they're less prone to this issue.

Edit: Never had issues with lint build up in the old Nokia charger port either, micro USB was the first port I really noticed it happening with.

[–] jemorgan@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you not have pocket lint build up in your phone’s ports over time?

[–] snowe@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How the heck are you getting gunk in your USB C ports? 🤨

I’m not, but other commenters in this thread are. And with the internal pin in the female connector you have a much higher risk of damage, also the connector is larger. Also have you never had lint get into a phone connector in your pocket? That was a huge issue for years with my Android phones. I had it fuck up my Dell streak port all the time.

I have an iPhone and have never had anything get stuck in the port, unlike all the Android stuff I’ve owned. But like I said, other commenters in here are complaining about things getting stuck in their USB C ports.

Indeed, it was probably fine ten years ago. But, as Mac Address (among many others) rightly pointed out, transferring gigabytes of HD video over a shoddy USB 2.0 line is a less-than-ideal experience.

Huh? Why in the world would you be doing that? And shoddy? Haha dude, usb 2 ran the world fine fora decade and continues to work fine today. Lightning supports up to USB 3 anyway, but USB C came out and they didn’t bother expanding their cable selection.

How?

No need to worry about whether the cable you’re using supports PD, bidirectionality, hdmi, etc. All lightning cables are the same. Power and data. I literally have a device to plug usb c cables into to verify what they support. Even Android news sites agree it’s a mess.

I’ve soldered up USB C cables. They’re not “it just works” like lightning is. I don’t even use lightning anymore since I wireless charge everything but apple not putting usb c on their phones is completely inconsequential and really not the massive deal everyone thinks it is.

[–] MangoKangaroo@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Also have you never had lint get into a phone connector in your pocket?

No.

Huh? Why in the world would you be doing that? And shoddy? Haha dude, usb 2 ran the world fine fora decade and continues to work fine today. Lightning supports up to USB 3 anyway, but USB C came out and they didn’t bother expanding their cable selection.

Because some people actually use their iPhone to record videos, since the iPhone has a pretty damn good video camera. I'll just link this excerpt from Mac Address that I hinted at before.

No need to worry about whether the cable you’re using supports PD, bidirectionality, hdmi, etc. All lightning cables are the same. Power and data.

USB C is a mess, sure. But if your solution to that is to try and justify sticking with an old, proprietary standard that supports only a fraction of the features of the competitor, then I guess it's your money to burn.

[–] snowe@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

USB C is a mess, sure. But if your solution to that is to try and justify sticking with an old, proprietary standard that supports only a fraction of the features of the competitor, then I guess it’s your money to burn.

I most definitely am not doing that. Lightning was good for the time, and the benefits of USB C now are overwhelming (compared to a few years ago). What I am talking about is the blatant whitewashing of the past. USB C didn't exist, and the lightning cable was amazing for what it replaced. Absolutely astounding honestly. And the connector still is. But time moves on. But lots of people love to hate on Apple and just completely ignore history.

[–] MangoKangaroo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have not and would not deny that, for the time, lightning was a hell of a lot better than micro USB and whatever other shit we had going on. That said, it's missing a lot of must-have modern features that myself (and others who need > USB 2 transfer speeds) would need. Type C is a mess, but I'm not to be convinced that Apple isn't more than capable of implementing it in a manner which offers a far better experience than what lightning is offering now. Either way, the deed seems to be done and Apple appears to be gearing up to offer Type C. I can only hope that they can do so in such a manner as to push other smartphone manufacturers to up the ante as well (looking at Google with its crippled Type C implementation on the Pixel.)

[–] snowe@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple will definitely not sell a single type c cable that isn't capable of at least 30W PD, so they can charge a shit ton for them, even if the product will never use 30W charging. Actually not sure about that. I should go check my beats cable to see what PD it's capable of.

What's up with the Pixel's Type C impl?

[–] MangoKangaroo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Google, unlike many of their competitors, doesn't support display out on the Pixel. (Maybe to incentive people to use Chromecast?) I originally thought this was a feature they had and then removed, but apparently they actually never had it at all. Either way maybe we'll see Apple do some impressive things with the PD on their implementation... Or add a lint filter to it ;)

[–] snowe@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

lol daisy chaining your 3 5k monitors with your cell phone!

weird that the pixel doesn't allow display out. wonder if it caused massive battery problems or screen overheating or something. that's usually why they outright disable features like that.