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Hello all, I've been distro hopping a lot lately and have a long term goal of settling on one distro for the family laptops.

Currently it's a smattering of linux distro's and some M$ across all the systems in the house.

In short the fam has had a pretty negative reaction to Gnome for all the usual reasons, so there is a kubuntu instance, Nobara, but the KDE version, Manjaro etc... I kind of want to give Fedora a stint on my laptop and noticed the Fedora spins project and was wondering if anyone has played around with it at all?

I spun up the KDE version in a VM alongside the default Fedora and noticed it's running a newer kernel than the default, which is interesting...

Is it an equal partner in update cycles?

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[–] Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

If you want a KDE Fedora powered experience I definitely have to suggest Universal Blue Kinoite-main or Bazzite-Desktop. 🤟

Universal Blue project is OCI RPM OSTREE container native, atomic Fedora.

Silverblue/Kinoite/Serica/Onyx, but with extra batteries+codecs+hardware acceleration out of the box.

"Think Chromebook easy, but Fedora."

Bazzite is pretty amazing 🎮:

Project Bluefin for Developers 🦖:

If you update your normal Fedora system, they should all be running the same kernel.

Sometimes the installers can be stale....you can try installing ISOs from the net installer or nightlies:

Rather... I tried to find links to share... But everything looks to be rawhide... 😕

On atomic side, ublu automatically updates the system image, any layered RPMs as well as flatpaks and other containers/Docker/Podman/Distrobox.

Like Steam OS, if you want to enable -testing channel for updates on Ublu, you can make it more bleeding edge.

[–] juli@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Why ublue over fedora's images? You won't have fedoras signatures anymore. You can install the same stuff on official images

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Ya, but you're overlaying all that stuff, codecs, nvidia, etc. ublue works out of the box and updates are quicker due to not having to re-overlay everything. It's just less friction. Also it comes with automatic updates enabled which is really nice (and safe in an immutable, intrinsically rollbackable environment)

[–] juli@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

Overlaying isn't bad. It's kind of what we've done the past years anyway.

Does the speed of updates matter in any way? Unless it's not days, there's no reason for me to complain update the duration since everything is done in the background.

What's the difference to the auto update in silverblue?

Ootb fedora doesn't even have gnome extensions installed. We have to adjust our systems anyway

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