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I'm old enough to remember what happended in Rwanda. International laws may as well be printed on the back of a CVS receipt. It's equally worthless.
Pretending "international law" or anything the UN says is worth mentioning is laughable at this point.
And I do agree the slow West Bank takeover over by Israel settlers is wrong. It needs to stop. However claims about Israel being on colonized land is bullshit rhetoric that doesn't deserve respect.
My point is it's every countries history. No one exists on land orignally belonging to their tribe. Most land has been 'stolen' many times over.
At the end of the day my positions are this. Israel has a right to exist. Palestine never existed. Arabs lost every war ever fought. Losers don't get to dictate terms.
Arabs refused every deal presented no matter how favorable throughout the decades. They want it all. They want to be free from the river to the sea AKA they want every Jew dead. They are always the one to initate attacks.
After Oct 7th Israel had the right to declare war and do the needful so to speak. Hamas will be eradicated. Gaza will suffer much more than they are now and theres not a hashtag in the world that will change whats coming. No international law will be enforced, no UN intervention.
Religion is a cancer on the world and the middle east is exhibit A as to why it belongs in the past. Forced to choose I'll back Judism over Islam every time. Islam kills non believers like me and spawns death cults across the globe. It's an abhorrent and barbaric religion that is incompatible with the modern world.
I am also old enough to remember Rwanda. It reflected a failure of intervention, not the irrelevance of international law. Do you remember the ICTR? Do you remember Jean Kambanda, Colonel Theoneste Bagosora, Georges Rutaganda, Pauline Nyiramasuhuko and the ~60 others indicted for war crimes, many of whom are serving life sentences or have died in prison? You seem to misunderstand how international law -- or any law -- works. Laws don't stop criminals from doing crimes, it punishes them for doing crimes.
How about the Special Court for Sierra Leone, which marked the first time a head of state was held accountable by an international court for war crimes? Where's Charles Taylor now? Rotting in a cell in the UK, that's where.
Slobodan Milosevic croaked in a cell before his trial was over, but that's another example of international law holding a leader accountable.
Bibi and his cadre of warmongers will have their turn, but that's cold comfort to those whose world has ended because their extremist government poked a psychopathic, rage-fueled bear. And before you tell me "they elected them," no they didn't. At least half of the people in gaza are too young to vote. Israel is literally dropping bombs on children.
Oh, is THAT why you haven't provided any rebuttals?
You have an opinion and you are welcome to it, but I have backed up my opinion with examples which you have not disputed in any meaningful way.
Your position is brutal and reductive. The 'might makes right' attitude is regressive because it perpetuates ongoing conflict and instability, it promotes the idea that conflicts are resolved through dominance rather than negotiation, it frequently leads to the suppression of human rights and freedoms, as the ruling power prioritizes maintaining control over respecting individual rights. In short, it neglects the principles of justice, equality, and sustainable peace, leading to long-term negative consequences both domestically and internationally.
You say religion is a cancer. How ironic that positions like yours are a big reason why it can be a cancer.
Your views on Arab participation in peace processes are similarly reductive. Israel has similarly rejected Palestinian proposals, for example the Camp David Summit, the Taba Talks and the Arab Peace Initiative.
Lastly, your characterization of Islam reeks of bigotry. Extremism does not define an entire religion, and Islam is practiced by about a quarter of the world's population -- if a significant portion wanted to "wipe out the non-believers," the world would be a very different place than it is. Such generalizations hinder constructive dialogue and perpetuate hate.
Speaking from my own perspective as someone lucky enough to grow up in a large, multi-cultural city, your statements about Islam hold exactly no water. I'm an atheist. Is 'killing the non-believers' done by inviting them to Iftar dinner? By inviting a Rabbi to speak at Iftar dinner about the sacredness of peace and how fortunate we are to live in a peaceful society? It's clear to me that you have no idea about Muslims. I, on the other hand, have a few Muslim friends and colleagues. I even drink beer and smoke shisha with one, even though it's haram. Like every other religion, practitioners exist on a continuum. Like every other religion there are bad people who use it to justify bad actions. Religion is just one of many pretexts bad people use to justify atrocious behaviour. 'National security' is another big one.
What else have you got?
#gaza #gazagenocide #palestine #freepalestine🇵🇸
I'm just impressed you've maintained this quaint notion of how the world works at your age. You seem to have an honest belief in international law and humanity.
I have a belief system based in reality. One where winners dictate terms. No one from a nation with nukes will face the same fate as someone from an African or Balkan country.
Funny how much better life starts to get the further one strays from religion. It's almost like it's holding us all back or something /s
I wish I could say I was surprised by your nihilistic attitude, at your presumed age, but it's sadly all too common. As I've gotten older and watched the world I have become more convinced of the importance of international order, not less.
To be perfectly clear, and as I've repeatedly explained, attitudes like the one you're demonstrating are the essential reason why things are going downhill. To you and everyone like you: Stop acting like an angry 17 year old who just read Ayn Rand. Grow up.
I do think that religion holds us back -- but I'm trying to understand your use of the sarcasm tag. Is the god you worship the military industrial complex and nationalistic exceptionalism? Do you worship The Bomb? Your unquestioning faith in your 'reality' seems like a kind of religious fervor.
I am surprised that you've continued the conversation for so long without providing anything of substance. Your faith must be unshakeable.
You say Islam is a death cult, but have you heard yourself?