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I got sent an invite ages ago. I've jumped in every so often but I am always shocked by how crap it is. Mastodon is so much better.
IKR? I'm disappointed that most of my favorite artists went there, instead of something like Mastodon
People like to pretend Mastodon is confusing
Mastodon is confusing mostly because it doesn't help you in any way, it just sits there and goes "you have no feeds". Well what am I supposed to do about that?
There doesn't seem to be a "discover" feature so you have to just magically know the usernames people already on the platform and then add them.
This is at the top of all of the mastodon servers I have an account on. If someone lacks the curiosity to click the word explore, then that is on them, not on the tech.
The cries of every dev throughout programming history. Why are the users so stupid?
But the thing is, uses are stupid. People get confused if you put "sign in" instead of "log in'. If lots of people think that Mastodon is confusing then Mastodon is confusing. The consensus cannot be wrong. You might disagree with it but it cannot be wrong.
It requires a UX overhaul by someone who actually understands UX and researches it. I used to do UX as my job specialization and trust me everyone thinks it's easy and it isn't.
It isn't a consensus, though. If it were, nobody would be debating it.
Consensus doesn't require everyone in the world to agree it just requires the majority to agree and clearly the majority do otherwise the comment that it's confusing would not have been made.
It's not up for debate, people find it confusing.
An overwhelming majority, yes. Do you a have a survey or study that demonstrates this?
This makes no sense. Anybody can make any comment. Just because I say a thing doesn't mean that the majority agrees with me.
I actually don't disagree much about the Dev/UX parts of your comment. But you should take note that I was replying to the statement:
Pretend? I'm a computer nerd and I put off signing up for Mastodon for months because of how complicated it is. I completely understand why normies nope the hell off.
What people don't understand is that you're the algorithm on mastodon. You're doing the work.
I'm on it and it's actually my best experience on social media for a long long time. People are nice and discussions aren't toxic like on others. But, it comes with the cost to be the algorithm.
Yeah once you're on it it's pretty great, although still a bit confusing with how the federation works. But learning what you should think about when choosing an instance, benefits of niche and general instances, big and small instances, what to do if you end up regretting your choice, how to find and add your friends and if they're on an instance that federates with yours or not, learning about Mastodon privacy when it comes to posts and "DMs", instance security etc etc etc. It's a lot.
This is ridiculous. Please turn in your nerd card.
Im an idiotic old man who can barely repair my PC anymore and it was very easy to make an account here and on mastodon. Dunno what people are on about.
It's not creating the account that is the problem. It's learning what you should know about the instance you choose, then choosing an instance, and understanding how the federation of posts work. Etc.
More like people like to act smug and pretend it isn't.
I found it and Lemmy frustrating to get started tbh. Besides the flagship instances early on finding a server I could actually join was a lot of research and trial and error.
at least now we can just subscribe with RSS to get updates and actually have the links be usable
As an amateur artist, mastodon is really not friendly to newcomers like me.
I had to figure out what an instance was and pick one (I chose mastodon.art since I was interested in that)
After wondering why I couldn't find other people's accounts, it turned out that I shouldn't have picked that instance because it had defederated from almost anyone else.
So now I had to create another account in another instance, which turned out to be so full my posts were not getting any traction.
With Bluesky I just created an account and I immediately gained a few followers
It is just not worth the hastle.
I don't get the hate, I've been there for a year and the place is pretty cool with many writers and artists that aren't on Mastodon. It feels like twitter on the good days. Maybe if you curate your friend list better you would get a better timeline?
Same, it seems like a bunch of people that want to get off twitter but don't pull the plug so bluesky is thier backup plan in case it doesn't work out.
I had the exact opposite reaction when I got my invite a few months after jumping ship to Mastodon. Mastodon just doesn’t have good discoverability and didn’t have a lot of the people I used to follow on Twitter. Bluesky’s feeds feature solves the discoverability problem; I’ve already found way more people I want to follow on there than on my entire time on Mastodon.
Mastodon is great if you want a social media site that'll have people shout at you for not putting a Content Warning on a post about you eating a ham sandwich.
When I do something that offends you: this is real life and you need to accept it bigot
When you do something that offends me: PUT A WARNING ON THAT