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“BD” refers to Franco-Belgian comics, but let's open things up to include ALL Euro comics and GN's. Euro-style artistry from around the world is also welcome. ^^

* BD = "Bandes dessinées"
* BDT = Bedetheque
* GN = graphic novel
* LBK = Lambiek
* LC = "Ligne claire"

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Haha, nah, it's really more like these:


(hmm... metaphor for Snowy- Hergé himself?)


(evil Tintin alert?)


Eureka! I've got... something..?


Meh... so at least it's back to Peru, via fortunato!

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[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

edit: Hergé you cynic mfer, you´re as cold as ice! It really is the (slightly altered) Enola Gay, scaring a “japanese” Tintin and Snowy! WTF is wrong with you Hergé?!

I dunno, matey. Other than them both being bombers, I see very little similarity in scale, shape or logistics. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But you're right-- that one was not in good taste, and I regret sharing it.
Indeed, despite Hergé classically constructing Tintin as 'young adult fiction,' he would occasionally depict some bleak things going on in the background.

At the same time, he was a smart, complex man, who went through a lot in WWII and post-WWII, but also regretted how naive he'd been when he was younger. Now George Lucas is a guy who pointlessly keeps re-working his old movies, but Hergé is a guy who reworked much of his Tintin stuff, very much for the better.

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I see very little similarity in scale, shape or logistics

You are right, that was just what I associated at first. On a closer look it´s in fact a very different plane. However, my point is that a drawing of an American bomber, scaring a Japanese civilian, is a really edgy joke, considering the fire bombing and also nuking of Japanese cities full of civilians during WWII by the American air force.

I regret sharing it.

I don´t think you should, this is a historical document and there is nothing wrong with posting it, as long as it not posted in a way that mocks the victims or their descendants.

Hergé is a guy who reworked much of his Tintin stuff

Very interesting. I would love to see some examples!

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

However, my point is that a drawing of an American bomber, scaring a Japanese civilian, is a really edgy joke, considering the fire bombing and also nuking of Japanese cities full of civilians during WWII by the American air force.

Right, gotcha.
Makes me so sad, and... yeah.
Just... fuck.

(oh god, please tell me I didn't accidentally trigger the Haiku-bot just there!!)

Very interesting. I would love to see some examples!

My old friend "Lil' Ampton" is an absolute genius about this stuff. Haven't heard from him for a couple years, unfortunately. Last I remember, he was fast-tracking his archeology doctorate, and didn't have time for Tintin analysis anymore.

Anyway, here:
https://ampton.wordpress.com/

We love you, Ampton! <3
Come back one day...?

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What an impressive blog, with so many well researched and professionally written articles about comic book history! Like this one: https://ampton.wordpress.com/2019/01/10/ampton-reads-tintin-in-the-congo/#more-61

Come back one day…?

Well, if he does we need to "recruit" him immediately!

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Like this one: https://ampton.wordpress.com/2019/01/10/ampton-reads-tintin-in-the-congo/#more-61

Dang, that's a hell of a Tintin book to cite. In the colorised / updated version, there's so much charming ligne claire to admire, yet at the same time, so much cringe-worthy stuff to suffer through. It's hard for me to think of any other Euro comics where I felt the same way.

Well... for example, I guess with some of Gimenez' stuff in which he's both writer & artist, I sometimes have no idea what the hell's going on with the plot and story-telling, but at the same time I'm utterly awestruck by the art. That's not nearly how conflicted I feel about Congo, but the rough point is made...

Well, if he does we need to “recruit” him immediately!

Haha, yes. What also blows my mind is that he was in his early-to-mid 20's when he wrote that series (Btw, he reviewed Asterix, too), while also pursuing his masters / doctorate. Such a super-smart, cool dude.